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Oct 20 2014 10:44am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Oct 20 2014 04:12pm)
Am I honestly the only one that thinks its impossible to compare Messi/Ronaldo to Maradona/pele etc?


no, you are right
just look at the players constitution nowadays, any halfway decent amateur player is better physically than the players in the past

thats not only reason why you cant compare them, but for me its the most important one
theres no telling which would be better, if you could somehow summon a fully and modern trained maradona/pele
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Oct 20 2014 10:49am
You have to put messi and Ronaldo at least on the same level of maradona and pele
All are the best in their times...
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Oct 20 2014 10:54am
Quote (chelsea11 @ Oct 20 2014 04:49pm)
You have to put messi and Ronaldo at least on the same level of maradona and pele
All are the best in their times...


in terms of skill yes, but in status and merits maradona and pele are 1 step above them
but since ronaldo and messi are far from finished there is a lot that can happen
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Oct 20 2014 10:58am
Maradona carried a mediocre Napoli to 2 scudetti when Serie A was the most competitive league in the world. He also reached 2 WC finals (winning one of them), with argentinian sides that were worse than the current one.

Until someone manages to do something like that, I'll have a hard time considering someone else as the GOAT.
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Oct 20 2014 11:42am
Quote (zarkadon @ 20 Oct 2014 18:58)
Maradona carried a mediocre Napoli to 2 scudetti when Serie A was the most competitive league in the world. He also reached 2 WC finals (winning one of them), with argentinian sides that were worse than the current one.

Until someone manages to do something like that, I'll have a hard time considering someone else as the GOAT.


Football was shit back then, how do you think madrid got those champions leagues ?

Pele or maradona would choke even versus a 3-rd tier team.
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Oct 20 2014 11:44am
Quote (zarkadon @ Oct 20 2014 07:58am)
Maradona carried a mediocre Napoli to 2 scudetti when Serie A was the most competitive league in the world. He also reached 2 WC finals (winning one of them), with argentinian sides that were worse than the current one.

Until someone manages to do something like that, I'll have a hard time considering someone else as the GOAT.



Don't get the gypsy too excited by mentioning goats.

This post was edited by Chilean on Oct 20 2014 11:44am
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Oct 20 2014 12:22pm
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Don't get the gypsy too excited by mentioning goats.


icwatudidthurr :lol:
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Oct 20 2014 12:48pm
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Football was shit back then, how do you think madrid got those champions leagues ?

Pele or maradona would choke even versus a 3-rd tier team.



This
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Oct 20 2014 01:07pm
Quote (B4al @ Oct 20 2014 10:42am)
Football was shit back then, how do you think madrid got those champions leagues ?

Pele or maradona would choke even versus a 3-rd tier team.


By these standrads, let's say B4al has an off-spring (god save us all) and 34 years later this off-spring is on a gaming website forum goes on crying that football in 2014 was shitty, no defense, slow, untactical.

How stupid are you to say this shit when you were not even around to prove the obvious. And it doesn't surprise me that Chelshit11 agree's with B4al. It's just stupid to think that top-tier football in the 80's and 90's is shit compared to football today?

They should make a D2jsp for the mentally handicapped. So all these degenerates can play with their stupid ideas and views.
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Oct 20 2014 01:24pm
Quote (ZK9GT @ 20 Oct 2014 21:07)
By these standrads, let's say B4al has an off-spring (god save us all) and 34 years later this off-spring is on a gaming website forum goes on crying that football in 2014 was shitty, no defense, slow, untactical.

How stupid are you to say this shit when you were not even around to prove the obvious. And it doesn't surprise me that Chelshit11 agree's with B4al. It's just stupid to think that top-tier football in the 80's and 90's is shit compared to football today?

They should make a D2jsp for the mentally handicapped. So all these degenerates can play with their stupid ideas and views.


Those of us (not mexicunts) who have a brain don't need to see or touch a player to judge his ability.

Game was slow back then, football players were partially professional. It was more like playing in school yard.

For instance, there was this romanian guy who had the world record for goals in a season (which messi broke). Judging by your stupid assumptions we could say he was great when in fact due to the communist regime matches were fixed and he could have scored 5 times that. Same goes for madrid the franco era, when they were stealing points and goals all over.


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