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Mar 27 2016 12:56pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 27 Mar 2016 17:48)

Germany has a manager that has held them back for a decade, even with them winning the WC. They have by far the best team, but they could choke.


It actually took me ages to get to "like" Löw a little, but I honestly think that it is the other way round as well. This year, with Lahm/Schweini/Klose gone, Germany will not field the best overall team. But that's exactly where Löw's reliance on guys like Podolski, Schürrle and others, who got to know each other over a rather long time by now and his general consistency in call-ups (although often heavily criticized, as he left out many players who were believed to deserve it by supporters/experts), may give them an edge in a close game or two.

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France have a good team, but the pressure is going to be huge and I have my doubts regarding Deschamps. On the other hand, France is one of the countries that traditionaly performed best as hosts.


Double-edged sword of course... so far I honestly think being the hosts this year will do them good. No more "lifeless" displays in KO games (which happened quite often imo), as they will want to prove themselves like no other team.

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Spain has a good team on paper, but the they seem so lost. Del Bosque keeps calling up the wrong men and chosing awful starting lineups. Haven't seen la Roja have a proper good game in ages.


Del Bosque has the most demanding job fiinding a decent and overall accepted line-up including both experienced guys like Fabregas/Iniesta and next-gen players like Morata/Koke as well ImO.
I don't really think he calls up entirely wrong people, I just believe he hasn't found a solid starting squad yet...

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Italy just doesn't look good on paper. Their qualifying run was pretty mediocre aswell. The only thing that makes them having chance is Italy being Italy.


Depending on the call-ups, Italy might field a strong team actually... + Italy being Italy instantly makes them an auto top-4 candidate :D

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England has quality players... but just like Italy is Italy, England is England. I think the low pressure will benefit them and they'll have a good chance to shine. Hodgson could very well blow that chance though. I agree that they need to improve as a unit, and the time to do so is indeed running out, but it's not impossible that they'll step up. Spain didn't look good at all before the 2008 Euro.


As with Germany and Spain, England could end up both ways... it's up to Hodgson now to form the needed unit on the pitch and develop a tactical approach that benefits most of his players. I'd really like him to ignore any of the older guys (except Rooney) to give the next generation a chance. If he ends up starting Carrick, Rooney, Cahill and other guys like them and still blows EURO, it will be another missed opportunity. If he fields the youth captained by Rooney only and they only make it to the last 16 or 8, it'll still be an important step for all the younger guys.
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Mar 27 2016 12:58pm
Quote (B4al @ 25 Mar 2016 16:55)
Roberto is far better at rb position than central mid. He left Busquets exposed so many times i simply can't dig this guy. King of short 2-3m passes. Too afraid to make a mistake to impose his game. IF he's called up this is the Joke of the year and if he starts regularly its gonna be REEP For spain pretty quickly.

Id rather have anyone, literally, than sergi roberto in that midfield. Isco - in spite of his somwhat meh form- for an attacking/playmaking option - id go as far as to regive him the Malaga role in the 1st team. Or camacho for a defensive option.


Del Bosque has put Roberto in Busquets role. 8 min in the game and he already has 2 big personal mistakes.
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Mar 27 2016 01:06pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Mar 27 2016 03:48pm)
Never really rated Mertens tbh, although idk how he's doing for Belgium. I included Ferreira-Carrasco because he positively surprised me this season, easily one of La Liga's best signings.

About Lombaerts... tbh idk how he's doing at Zenit. It's just that I don't see Verm fit to play as a starter, so I just went with Lombaerts.



Mertens is great for Belgium, was one of our main players at the WC aswell. I agree about Carrascos season, been very impressive but he shouldnt start for us just yet.

And I think Vermaelen should be able to stay fit, if not either lombaerts or hopefully Engels from Brugge
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Mar 27 2016 02:38pm
Jack Butland has fractured his ankle, out of Euro 2016 :(
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Mar 27 2016 02:39pm
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Jack Butland has fractured his ankle, out of Euro 2016 :(


woot :o
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Mar 27 2016 02:50pm
Quote (ampoo @ Mar 27 2016 09:39pm)
woot :o


Didn't you know he got injured kicking the ball 30 seconds before Kroos scored? He would have saved it otherwise I'm sure. He should have just kicked the ball out straight away but he wanted to continue, because it was his big chance to impress the manager... -_-

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Mar 27 2016 02:52pm
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Didn't you know he got injured kicking the ball 30 seconds before Kroos scored? He would have saved it otherwise I'm sure. He should have just kicked the ball out straight away but he wanted to continue, because it was his big chance to impress the manager... -_-


yeah i know, but it didnt look nearly as bad on television, thats all
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Mar 27 2016 04:11pm
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Jack Butland has fractured his ankle, out of Euro 2016 :(


Hart out and Butland now too, time to call up David James, Liverpool/Three Lions legend.
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Quote (excellence @ 28 Mar 2016 00:11)
Hart out and Butland now too, time to call up David James, Liverpool/Three Lions legend.




and something for my germun brothers :

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Mar 27 2016 05:23pm
Quote (B4al @ 27 Mar 2016 20:44)
Ye, still the thing remains that both Saurez and Messi can create a chance out of nothing, chapter in which i rate Cristiano far, far inferior. Saurez used to score for Liverpool on his own quite a lot, individual efforts. And was a better finisher (although his barca 41 goal tally looks impressive, the misses he has every game make me go lol at times)
Although i don't watch madrid that often, i can't remember an important good game of Cristiano when Benzema was absent.

Plus there is a danger in the Thierry effect (Henry being a liability in his last Arsanal year just like Ronaldinho was before heading to Milan - all players forget their game and look for him)


Well, he had tons of good game while playing along Higuaín instead of Karim. He has indeed evolved into a player that feeds on Karim's playmaking, but that might be a matter of the system Madrid has been following for the past 3 years.

He had great individual performances in decisive moments with Portugal aswell (the playoff game vs Sweden or that game in the last Euro against the Oranje I think it was). The problem is that he has failed to play like that consistently for the national team... but if he manages to pull it off (and it's never impossible for a world class player), then Portugal will once again be possible contender imo.

Quote (aneas @ 27 Mar 2016 20:56)
It actually took me ages to get to "like" Löw a little, but I honestly think that it is the other way round as well. This year, with Lahm/Schweini/Klose gone, Germany will not field the best overall team. But that's exactly where Löw's reliance on guys like Podolski, Schürrle and others, who got to know each other over a rather long time by now and his general consistency in call-ups (although often heavily criticized, as he left out many players who were believed to deserve it by supporters/experts), may give them an edge in a close game or two.



Double-edged sword of course... so far I honestly think being the hosts this year will do them good. No more "lifeless" displays in KO games (which happened quite often imo), as they will want to prove themselves like no other team.



Del Bosque has the most demanding job fiinding a decent and overall accepted line-up including both experienced guys like Fabregas/Iniesta and next-gen players like Morata/Koke as well ImO.
I don't really think he calls up entirely wrong people, I just believe he hasn't found a solid starting squad yet...



As with Germany and Spain, England could end up both ways... it's up to Hodgson now to form the needed unit on the pitch and develop a tactical approach that benefits most of his players. I'd really like him to ignore any of the older guys (except Rooney) to give the next generation a chance. If he ends up starting Carrick, Rooney, Cahill and other guys like them and still blows EURO, it will be another missed opportunity. If he fields the youth captained by Rooney only and they only make it to the last 16 or 8, it'll still be an important step for all the younger guys.


I agree with most of the stuff you say, just want to comment on a few things:

About France, the thing is that most of their best players lack experience at the highest level of competiton. Aside from Benzema, how many of them have played a decent number of Euro/WC/CL semis or finals? Most of them haven't played any. I have the same feeling with them as I had with Germany... when Dortmund and Bayern reached the CL final I thought to myself "Germany is going to be very hard to stop now". I feel like France might need to have their players learn to compete and win at such a high demanding level of football before they can win silverware. If PSG wins the CL I think France would become a lot more dangerous.

About Del Bosque, I'm aware that he has a tough job. The problem is he calls people like Nacho, Munir and Bartra (even Sergi Roberto is debatable), simply because they play for Madrid/Barça. He ignores players that are having an amazing season (Víctor Ruiz, Albiol, Borja Bastón, Aduriz, etc... although the latter one at least got called up this time; we'll see if he also calls him for the Euro, but it's ridiculous how he prefers Alcácer over him). Diego Costa is useless for us, and he calls him almost every time. He also keeps insisting on players that are nowhere near the level they used to have in previous seasonsl (Mata, Silva, Fábregas). Call one or two if you have a personal faith in them, but not all 3 ffs.

About England, I don't think Rooney should be this new generation's leader. I believe he needs to leave like Baggio, Raúl, Ballack, etc leaved (one way or the other), allowing the following promising generation to blossom.
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