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I'm not dodging at all. You're just trying to put up a question excluding all sorts of possible answers - that's how desperate you are! "Don't mention Barca, don't mention EL

Are u cerial? Ok, le me repeat this one last time: can u name at least one Spanish club besides barca, that would do well in Europe in recent years?
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On the one hand you say EPL is best because it has so many teams competing on a high level on the other hand they don't win it

Again, if we talk about recent years, when EPL established as No1 league, does 3-2 to Barca (not La Liga) mean that English don't win it and La Liga dominate?
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Also that year you had "4 strong teams in the best club competition" - who won it?

Liverpool, Barca,Utd( KOed Barca on the way) and Inter
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And "Premier League rest" is not even close to "La Liga rest" as EL clearly shows.

Can I ask u how u came to this conclusion?

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Are u cerial? Ok, le me repeat this one last time: can u name at least one Spanish club besides barca, that would do well in Europe in recent years?

Again, if we talk about recent years, when EPL established as No1 league, does  3-2 to Barca (not La Liga) mean that English don't win it and La Liga dominate?

Liverpool, Barca,Utd( KOed Barca on the way) and Inter

Can I ask u how u came to this conclusion?
Dude, seriously quit wasting your time.
That spastic feeds on your valid and reasonable arguments and then erm defecates stuff to which you respond to every time thus further feeding him. :(

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Are u cerial? Ok, le me repeat this one last time: can u name at least one Spanish club besides barca, that would do well in Europe in recent years?


Your question is completely redundant - what you want to know from me is something you can easily look up and I won't even have to ask you to specify what you mean by "doing well". Also the answer you are most likely looking for is one that's meant to support your (imo weak) point of view which is having more teams in semis is better than winning the title more often. And I already acknowledged the fact Premier League had more several times:

La Liga will win the Cups, take over the #1 spot in UEFA rankings again and build up a new generation of excellent Spanish youth players while Premier League can gloat about the number of CL quarter and semi finalists they had several years ago, buy foreign stars for foreign oil money and cripple England's slim chances of winning anything in the near future in the process.

In a nutshell: Worst question ever! But obviously you have to resort to this kind of question since you only have that one point and that was already 3 years ago!

Oh and "cereal" (this is how it's spelled) was funny in 2006.

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Again, if we talk about recent years, when EPL established as No1 league, does  3-2 to Barca (not La Liga) mean that English don't win it and La Liga dominate?


Huh? English please!

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Liverpool, Barca,Utd( KOed Barca on the way) and Inter


Lol, I give you 2008 and 2009 (when Barca raped United in finals). When Liverpool won in 2005 and Inter in 2010 there were 2 English clubs in quarters, not 4!

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Can I ask u how u came to this conclusion?


EL results clearly show, look 'em up!

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Dude, seriously quit wasting your time.
That spastic feeds on your valid and reasonable arguments and then erm defecates stuff to which you respond to every time thus further feeding him. :(


And again, just hate and personal attacks. You're incapable of making an argument, sad little hater!

La Liga will win the Cups, take over the #1 spot in UEFA rankings again and build up a new generation of excellent Spanish youth players while Premier League can gloat about the number of CL quarter and semi finalists they had several years ago, buy foreign stars for foreign oil money and cripple England's slim chances of winning anything in the near future in the process.

You're so mad right now! :rofl:
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Apr 6 2012 04:49pm
So let's get this straight, final question: titles>all?
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So let's get this straight, final question: titles>all?


Do you feel clever asking such incoherent questions and creating some kind of weird logic out of my answers to make PL look better? :rolleyes:

My point is simple: Looking all the aspects I consider relevant (titles in CL but also titles in EL, the amount of money spent by the leagues and also the amount of homegrown players used) I come to the conclusion that La Liga > PL.

Your point is basically: PL > La Liga because they had more semi finalists in 2008 and in 2009.
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So let's get this straight, final question: More semi finalists years ago > More titles in both competitions?
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Do you feel clever asking such incoherent questions and creating some kind of weird logic out of my answers to make PL look better?  :rolleyes:

My point is simple: Looking all the aspects I consider relevant (titles in CL but also titles in EL, the amount of money spent by the leagues and also the amount of homegrown players used) I come to the conclusion that La Liga > PL.

Your point is basically: PL > La Liga because they had more semi finalists in 2008 and in 2009.


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So let's get this straight, final question: More semi finalists years ago > More titles in both competitions?


U still find it hard to give me a simple answer to equally simple question. Btw, just out of curiosity, u european?
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U still find it hard to give me a simple answer to equally simple question. Btw, just out of curiosity, u european?


I've lost count of how many times you changed the topic and dodged legit questions. So you crying about me not answering such an incoherent question is the ultimate form of irony!
Also I elaborated my point of view, isn't that an answer to your question? It includes titles as very important but not the only aspect.


And yes, I'm from the very heart of Europe, I'm Swiss. And you must be English or Scandinavian I guess. Because you are clearly a FAN of Premier League. It might surprise you that I don't even support a Spanish club, my favourite (and only) club plays in 2nd Swiss League.
I'm just telling you so you know I don't have any personal connections or love for La Liga, in fact I'd rather see Bayern or Chelsea win it because I don't like the flopping and complaining, but it's not going to happen. I guess not being a fan of either league gives me an advantage in objectivity but I thought the facts would even convince a PL fan if he was open minded. Guess I was wrong. I'll call it fan-denial. ;)

But I'm glad we were able to stay on topic most of the time (unlike Pozer and his American minions) - guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Cheers!
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Apr 6 2012 06:10pm
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I've lost count of how many times you changed the topic and dodged legit questions. So you crying about me not answering such an incoherent question is the ultimate form of irony!
Also I elaborated my point of view, isn't that an answer to your question? It includes titles as very important but not the only aspect.

Fair enough. If u think i dodged something, let it be. It doesn't make much of a difference. But can u explain me how this shit works, how u came up with La Liga as No1? Cuz any argument u gave so far with La Liga,I struggle to apply it to the rest of European club football. As far as I know, one should be able to use the same method while determining current situation about football, but I come up with different results. Have u tried it?
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And yes, I'm from the very heart of Europe, I'm Swiss. And you must be English or Scandinavian I guess. Because you are clearly a FAN of Premier League

U missed here, i'm neither of those, just happened to reside in the UK for time being. ;)
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but I thought the facts would even convince a PL fan if he was open minded. Guess I was wrong. I'll call it fan-denial.

Ok, one last time, can u give the decisive factors, that make La Liga the strongest in the world?

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