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Jun 10 2018 09:07am
thank god the antifa team with googh and abumalek has arrived

the national team represents this country and i dont want players in it that call a foreign, islamist dictator, who has insulted our country with every nazi/fascist or even racial insult that you can possibly imagine, "my president"
if you dont have a problem with that, fine, but stop these stupid accusations

is that really all?

gündogan and özil have exposed themselves and they have never sincerely apologised

as a matter of fact THEY are playing for us for money and glory, not the other way around

Quote (abumalek @ 10 Jun 2018 16:17)
As i said typical nazis
when germanys team was shit all here said we need this players like the özils boatengs... in our team, born and raised in germany blabla

Now we won the wc and the typical germans like you ampoo fender are crying about turks

Just laughable

Please just shut up


exactly the opposite, i gladly trade success for integrity
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Jun 10 2018 09:19am
Quote (ampoo @ Jun 10 2018 04:07pm)
thank god the antifa team with googh and abumalek has arrived

the national team represents this country and i dont want players in it that call a foreign, islamist dictator, who has insulted our country with every nazi/fascist or even racial insult that you can possibly imagine, "my president"
if you dont have a problem with that, fine, but stop these stupid accusations

is that really all?

gündogan and özil have exposed themselves and they have never sincerely apologised

as a matter of fact THEY are playing for us for money and glory, not the other way around



exactly the opposite, i gladly trade success for integrity


Good post my friend. I agree with you and fender for once, if they don't respect freedom and democracy in Germany they can go back to Turkey.
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Jun 10 2018 09:23am
Quote (googh @ Jun 10 2018 03:55pm)
does adams has the quality of özil ? Henry left ur club when you were not winning anything so far i remember right.... alexis did aswell mesut did not and he came from real madrid beginning squad mby it is just the opinion of my family club supporters ... my bad sorry i thought it would represent the feeling of a bigger part and as far as i remember




Bcos it is easy as long you do everything right and have success you are german but when you can differ doing stuff like beating ur wife (random example) you are a "filthy migrant" (who does not respect the rights of woman bcos of cultural backround)
Racism has his own facettes. Talking to putin makes you a "putin versteher". Merkel was at a meeting for hours licking the ass of erdogan but you wont doubt her dignity. I hope you get my point after all. They are germans who decided to play for the german squad.
Racism can be hided behind facettes like religions aswell just be careful mate ... abumaleks harsh words like "medien opfer" may be explained here aswell
I do not know if they consider what they did as a mistake maybe they want to support erdogan , maybe they just got abused ? I dont know but i will defend them as a person and that is just my position and i would do the same for the other people from the german squad.




I did not mean that.... it was a metaphor of doing something what is not right or might not be right, sorry if you did not get me .... i m just trying to tell you to be careful and not applying a double standard


Adams was incredible for us :D One of the few to have a statue outside the club, Özil will never get one for example.
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Jun 10 2018 09:30am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Jun 10 2018 04:23pm)
Adams was incredible for us :D One of the few to have a statue outside the club, Özil will never get one for example.


lol ^^, well i thought he would be a player playing in the squad right now but i guess you got my point and i know how my british family hates on germans "germs" xddddddddddddddddddddddddddd as a standart while i defend my country (but özil is ozil^^). that is the difference in germany ppl always call you turk when you have turkish roots xd or paki if you have pakistani roots.
But i like the way how you guys support your clubs and thank you for your opinion.

This post was edited by googh on Jun 10 2018 09:48am
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Jun 10 2018 10:55am
Quote (dro94 @ 10 Jun 2018 11:19)
Good post my friend. I agree with you and fender for once, if they don't respect freedom and democracy in Germany they can go back to Turkey.



#dasracist

:rofl:
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Jun 10 2018 11:01am
Quote (googh @ 10 Jun 2018 17:30)
lol ^^, well i thought he would be a player playing in the squad right now but i guess you got my point and i know how my british family hates on germans "germs" xddddddddddddddddddddddddddd as a standart while i defend my country (but özil is ozil^^). that is the difference in germany ppl always call you turk when you have turkish roots xd or paki if you have pakistani roots.
But i like the way how you guys support your clubs and thank you for your opinion.


this is simply wrong and you know it

Quote (Mr_Mill @ 10 Jun 2018 19:04)
Racism in this forum is the worst, they call me french all the time while I'm belgian :fume:


is there a difference?

This post was edited by ampoo on Jun 10 2018 11:05am
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Jun 10 2018 11:04am
Racism in this forum is the worst, they call me french all the time while I'm belgian :fume:
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Jun 10 2018 11:22am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 10 Jun 2018 18:04)
Racism in this forum is the worst, they call me french all the time while I'm belgian :fume:


that's not racism though, it's just an alternative spelling...
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Jun 10 2018 11:44am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Jun 10 2018 06:04pm)
Racism in this forum is the worst, they call me french all the time while I'm belgian :fume:


Quote (fender @ Jun 10 2018 06:22pm)
that's not racism though, it's just an alternative spelling...


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Jun 10 2018 11:53am
I, for my life cannot understand why and how anyone of Turkish descent living in Germany (having been brought up there, basically living there since you were born) can support the values and ideas that erdogan represents.

not just these two, Turkish people in general.. it seems like they are a majority in Germany...


Bad press for these two, it's not bad because they "support" something or someone, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't show it publicly. You as a professional footballer can reach so many lives and you shouldn't be influenced by politics or political values.


Just my 2 cents.
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