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Mar 4 2016 03:18am
Quote (fender @ Mar 4 2016 04:40am)
right now? kroos, özil & silva for sure. maybe even pjanic, eriksen & modric just to name a few that come to mind immediately...



Kroos????? Silva?????
Ozil has been really good this season,but cesc is still a better passer.

Like I said only pirl is better past few years
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Mar 4 2016 03:58am
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Kroos????? Silva?????
Ozil has been really good this season,but cesc is still a better passer.

Like I said only pirl is better past few years


Özil has possibly the best vision and passing that any player can have. Cesc is a great passer but he's better at infiltrating and scoring goals.

Cesc is far from consistent tho.
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Mar 4 2016 08:55am
Messis left foot makes much better passes than anyone else ;)
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Mar 4 2016 09:12am
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Özil has possibly the best vision and passing that any player can have. Cesc is a great passer but he's better at infiltrating and scoring goals.

Cesc is far from consistent tho.


Cesc is having better successful passes % and also have made way more passes per game even in the mediocre season he's having. It's good to mention also that Ozil is pure AMC and Cesc is a bit out of position even played some games as DMC this season, and when you add the overall Arsenal & Chelsea team performance this season you will see why Ozil is having a lot more assists than Cesc this season.
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Mar 4 2016 10:11am
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Cesc is having better successful passes % and also have made way more passes per game even in the mediocre season he's having. It's good to mention also that Ozil is pure AMC and Cesc is a bit out of position even played some games as DMC this season, and when you add the overall Arsenal & Chelsea team performance this season you will see why Ozil is having a lot more assists than Cesc this season.


Ozil > Cesc, end of story
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Mar 4 2016 10:34am
Quote (chelsea11 @ Mar 3 2016 10:38pm)
I mean the way he played last season wasn't hard to say that lol...


For sure

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Cesc is having better successful passes % and also have made way more passes per game even in the mediocre season he's having. It's good to mention also that Ozil is pure AMC and Cesc is a bit out of position even played some games as DMC this season, and when you add the overall Arsenal & Chelsea team performance this season you will see why Ozil is having a lot more assists than Cesc this season.


You cannot really compare them.

Cesc may have more successful passes and even more passes per game, but he is playing - as you said yourself - more defensively, i.e. not taking too many risky passes.
Özil as an attacking midfielder, whose job it is to take more risky passes in order to create chances... ofc this is reflected by a higher number of incomplete passes...

Can't argue with Özil'S statistics though. Didn't matter whether his teams had good or bad seasons... he's been the player creating most chances per game/season for years now, throughout all of Europe's leagues.
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