Yeah its really boring now i agree...

Ronaldo is definitely dominating right now but luckily for messi he has afew more years to play when ronaldo will be older and not as good

Lololol

Ok, fair enough, let's go with this assumption. So, since Messi > Ronaldo, but Real > Barca, doen' tit mean that Real are simply better as a team and your ravings about shitty Ramos, Bale, James, Iker etc are delusional rants of a mad hater?

Lol and the year(s) messi scored all those tap-ins vs farmers quantity was the criteria for his accolades. Including a stolen ballon d'or from sneijder

Now its quality of the goal that is more important

Ibra - best player in history.

Messi has won 4 ballon d'or, and the last one was 2 years ago, when he was just 25.

He did not deserve 1 or 2 of them..

Why is that relevant ?

Its not always the best player who wins the Ballon Dor, as we have seen in recent years

Are you saying that he has not been the best player between 2009-2013? really?

No, it means real are simply in form and on an ascendent trend. Going up, while barcelona is slowly going down.

If you watch the two teams you notice that penaldo has very very silent games, even the ones in which he scores once, twice, while if you watch barcelona, almost every goal is messi related, regardless of who scores.

I rate ramos as mediocred. Last season he was better in attack than in defense.
I rate pep as trash.
Bale as InvisiBale, good some (very rarely) games, still, not a flop yet.
James as mediocre and overall a big flop
after wc no1 even considers iker a keeper.


Players i like : Kareem (50% or more of every madrid goal) modric (impressive rat - both last and current season) and isco who showed more than jamez and bale alltogether.


/thread. Messi >>>>>>> penaldo. Always was, always will be. No coincidence he has 4 ballons while cristiano has 3 and arguably deserved just one.