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Aug 7 2014 03:38pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Aug 7 2014 11:37pm)
so authentic he sold his nationalistic pride for the prestiege of playing international tournaments with la Roja :rofl:


Catalan ppl got no other ways to win a WC.

So, spanish nationalists always say we must not confuse politics and sport, right? B)
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Aug 7 2014 03:48pm
i dislike him by now
childish, stubborn and with questionable philosophy

i think he will be finished soon
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Aug 7 2014 03:55pm
Quote (Catalunya @ 7 Aug 2014 23:38)
Catalan ppl got no other ways to win a WC.

So, spanish nationalists always say we must not confuse politics and sport, right? B)


He could have done like Nacho, Kortabarria or Oleguer, all of which refused to play for the national team because they didn't feel spanish; but no, he wanted prestiege.

And it's not about mixing sport with politics, it's about being coherent... if you don't like what something represents, you don't associate yourself with it.

He may be a nationalist, but he's also a sellout. He's in fact the typical example of what most regional-nationalists in Spain are: he's a proud nationalist catalan but he's spanish when it benefits him :LOL:
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Aug 7 2014 04:02pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Aug 7 2014 09:55pm)
He could have done like Nacho, Kortabarria or Oleguer, all of which refused to play for the national team because they didn't feel spanish; but no, he wanted prestiege.

And it's not about mixing sport with politics, it's about being coherent... if you don't like what something represents, you don't associate yourself with it.

He may be a nationalist, but he's also a sellout. He's in fact the typical example of what most regional-nationalists in Spain are: he's a proud nationalist catalan but he's spanish when it benefits him :LOL:


well said mate
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Aug 7 2014 05:39pm
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He could have done like Nacho, Kortabarria or Oleguer, all of which refused to play for the national team because they didn't feel spanish; but no, he wanted prestiege.

And it's not about mixing sport with politics, it's about being coherent... if you don't like what something represents, you don't associate yourself with it.

He may be a nationalist, but he's also a sellout. He's in fact the typical example of what most regional-nationalists in Spain are: he's a proud nationalist catalan but he's spanish when it benefits him :LOL:


1) We both know that Nacho, Kortabarria or Oleguer could max play 1 or 2 games with national squad, Oleguer was the second best right back, behind Belleti LOL.

One of the most nationalist (vasque in this case) is Iribar, he played 49 international matches and he support Herri Batasuna, a politcal party (banned in spanish elections) for their relationship with a terrorist group.

Puyol, Valdés, Xavi or Piqué (even Busquets or Jordi Alba, I guess) have never celebrated a spanish title with a spanish flag, you know it and I know you know it. If you can't win a title with your country, you play for the national team that allow you to win it.

2) Guardiola always said that he feels catalan but he can't play for Catalonia, there are some videos that he talks about it at the same time he plays for Spain. I will post it in the next post:
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Aug 7 2014 05:40pm


0:25.

I'm sure you knew it before my post but I can't allow you to tell "medias verdades", ;)
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Aug 7 2014 06:26pm
No Sir
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Aug 7 2014 06:32pm
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1) We both know that Nacho, Kortabarria or Oleguer could max play 1 or 2 games with national squad, Oleguer was the second best right back, behind Belleti LOL.

One of the most nationalist (vasque in this case) is Iribar, he played 49 international matches and he support Herri Batasuna, a politcal party (banned in spanish elections) for their relationship with a terrorist group.

Puyol, Valdés, Xavi or Piqué (even Busquets or Jordi Alba, I guess) have never celebrated a spanish title with a spanish flag, you know it and I know you know it. If you can't win a title with your country, you play for the national team that allow you to win it.

2) Guardiola always said that he feels catalan but he can't play for Catalonia, there are some videos that he talks about it at the same time he plays for Spain. I will post it in the next post:


Oleguer and Nacho were garbage, yes, but you clearly don't know who Kortabarria was if you think he could only play 1 or 2 games max.

He was one of the best spaish CBs at the time. He played a key role in the 80s la Real that won 2 consecutive leagues, played CL semis and established the still standing Liga record of 38 games undefeated.

He was in fact called for the national team. He played 3 games as a starter before saying that he had fully embraced basque nationalism and no longer felt comfortable representing Spain.

And I don't see the point in defending Pep's choice by saying Iribar also did it. That in fact it defends my arguement because that just makes Iribar another sellout. Of course Iribar and others represented Spain while being separatists of their respective region. That's my point: the majority of regional-nationalists that claim they have nothing to do with Spain, suddenly become spanish when they can get prestiege, fame, money, or any other benefit.

This post was edited by zarkadon on Aug 7 2014 06:33pm
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Aug 7 2014 07:55pm
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That's my point: the majority of regional-nationalists that claim they have nothing to do with Spain, suddenly become spanish when they can get prestiege, fame, money, or any other benefit.


The only point that exist is that you can only win a WC if you play for Spain, that's all mate.

Xavi can earn more money in 1 simply spot of Adidas than winning the WC.
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Aug 7 2014 10:01pm
Quote (Catalunya @ Aug 7 2014 08:55pm)
The only point that exist is that you can only win a WC if you play for Spain, that's all mate.

Xavi can earn more money in 1 simply spot of Adidas than winning the WC.


That's all? Wow I agree the world cup is a meaningless tournament and means nothing!





Wow bro
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