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Dec 24 2015 01:00am
Thats smthing from van gaal. But its not gonna save his job.
He has committed too many crimes as manager of Man United.

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Dec 24 2015 04:09am
Quote (ChaoCheeBye @ 24 Dec 2015 09:00)
Thats smthing from van gaal. But its not gonna save his job.
He has committed too many crimes as manager of Man United.

lvgout


You guys are a bunch of idiots really. You cannot keep sacking trainers because the results are poor. They should be given time. With this mediocore squad no one would do better. Maybe a point here and there. There should be smart buys and time to form a decent team again. The contrast isnt good. Captain is horrible out form, it starts there for me. In a team that has a lot of new and youthfull players at least the Captain should be able to step up and motivate them. If Rooney were to play as well as a few years ago it would give some confidence. Then there is no striker. Van Gaal is partly to blame for this. But van Persie was in horrible form and should have been let go. Chicha probably didnt do too well on training. But the sqouts should have players lined up anyway, because van Persie was old. Whatever they will be back some day. But it will take on or two "shitty seasons". It's that simple.

Also management is to blame for this. For example. PSV and Ajax (Ajax went earlier.) their management told everyone the club would go in a new direction. They would be playing with youths. They asked of the fans to have patience, because the squad would not be top of the Eredivisie at once. But they would try and find their way back eventually even in Europe. Ajax did manage to win the Eredivisie 4 times in a row a starting a year later. PSV has held the same traject for 3 years now. Last year we were league champions and finally came back to the Champions League. We've made it to the knockout stages which is huge if you see our budget and average age in the team. But my point is, both clubs now have a TEAM again. I can maybe say this 100000000 times and most of you wont even know what this means because you're so used to buying good players. Hell even Fergie did it in his last two years. What everybody seems to be forgetting is that he used to win with own players. They were used to a system they've played since they were five years old. The management should have seen this coming and openly stated that United has went in a new direction. One that feels logical and then come back stronger. But in stead of investing wisely, they've thrown about 215 million against players and try to see what sticks. This doens't work nor will it ever work. Team building is so much more important. But yes it takes time and a lot of frustration during that time. I can tell you every second is worth it. I can hardly remember how bad PSV were dureing the first and second year because of last and this year.

This post was edited by CpTJenJen on Dec 24 2015 04:16am
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Quote (CpTJenJen @ Dec 24 2015 11:09am)
You guys are a bunch of idiots really. You cannot keep sacking trainers because the results are poor. They should be given time. With this mediocore squad no one would do better. Maybe a point here and there. There should be smart buys and time to form a decent team again. The contrast isnt good. Captain is horrible out form, it starts there for me. In a team that has a lot of new and youthfull players at least the Captain should be able to step up and motivate them. If Rooney were to play as well as a few years ago it would give some confidence. Then there is no striker. Van Gaal is partly to blame for this. But van Persie was in horrible form and should have been let go. Chicha probably didnt do too well on training. But the sqouts should have players lined up anyway, because van Persie was old. Whatever they will be back some day. But it will take on or two "shitty seasons". It's that simple.

Also management is to blame for this. For example. PSV and Ajax (Ajax went earlier.) their management told everyone the club would go in a new direction. They would be playing with youths. They asked of the fans to have patience, because the squad would not be top of the Eredivisie at once. But they would try and find their way back eventually even in Europe. Ajax did manage to win the Eredivisie 4 times in a row a starting a year later. PSV has held the same traject for 3 years now. Last year we were league champions and finally came back to the Champions League. We've made it to the knockout stages which is huge if you see our budget and average age in the team. But my point is, both clubs now have a TEAM again. I can maybe say this 100000000 times and most of you wont even know what this means because you're so used to buying good players. Hell even Fergie did it in his last two years. What everybody seems to be forgetting is that he used to win with own players. They were used to a system they've played since they were five years old. The management should have seen this coming and openly stated that United has went in a new direction. One that feels logical and then come back stronger. But in stead of investing wisely, they've thrown about 215 million against players and try to see what sticks. This doens't work nor will it ever work. Team building is so much more important. But yes it takes time and a lot of frustration during that time. I can tell you every second is worth it. I can hardly remember how bad PSV were dureing the first and second year because of last and this year.


Pretty much what Arsenal did for 7 years
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Quote (CpTJenJen @ 24 Dec 2015 11:09)
You guys are a bunch of idiots really. You cannot keep sacking trainers because the results are poor. They should be given time. With this mediocore squad no one would do better. Maybe a point here and there. There should be smart buys and time to form a decent team again. The contrast isnt good. Captain is horrible out form, it starts there for me. In a team that has a lot of new and youthfull players at least the Captain should be able to step up and motivate them. If Rooney were to play as well as a few years ago it would give some confidence. Then there is no striker. Van Gaal is partly to blame for this. But van Persie was in horrible form and should have been let go. Chicha probably didnt do too well on training. But the sqouts should have players lined up anyway, because van Persie was old. Whatever they will be back some day. But it will take on or two "shitty seasons". It's that simple.

Also management is to blame for this. For example. PSV and Ajax (Ajax went earlier.) their management told everyone the club would go in a new direction. They would be playing with youths. They asked of the fans to have patience, because the squad would not be top of the Eredivisie at once. But they would try and find their way back eventually even in Europe. Ajax did manage to win the Eredivisie 4 times in a row a starting a year later. PSV has held the same traject for 3 years now. Last year we were league champions and finally came back to the Champions League. We've made it to the knockout stages which is huge if you see our budget and average age in the team. But my point is, both clubs now have a TEAM again. I can maybe say this 100000000 times and most of you wont even know what this means because you're so used to buying good players. Hell even Fergie did it in his last two years. What everybody seems to be forgetting is that he used to win with own players. They were used to a system they've played since they were five years old. The management should have seen this coming and openly stated that United has went in a new direction. One that feels logical and then come back stronger. But in stead of investing wisely, they've thrown about 215 million against players and try to see what sticks. This doens't work nor will it ever work. Team building is so much more important. But yes it takes time and a lot of frustration during that time. I can tell you every second is worth it. I can hardly remember how bad PSV were dureing the first and second year because of last and this year.

you seem to forget that people aren't man utd "fans" due to "we will come back stronger some day"
there has been a lot of success in the past. if there wasn't, people like ChaoCheeBye would cheer for liverpool right now
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Dec 24 2015 04:49am
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Pretty much what Arsenal did for 7 years


Yep. And since Arsenal did it they can easilly learn from it and try to do it better IMO.
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Quote (CpTJenJen @ 24 Dec 2015 11:09)
You guys are a bunch of idiots really. You cannot keep sacking trainers because the results are poor. They should be given time. With this mediocore squad no one would do better.Maybe a point here and there. There should be smart buys and time to form a decent team again. The contrast isnt good. Captain is horrible out form, it starts there for me. In a team that has a lot of new and youthfull players at least the Captain should be able to step up and motivate them. If Rooney were to play as well as a few years ago it would give some confidence. Then there is no striker. Van Gaal is partly to blame for this. But van Persie was in horrible form and should have been let go. Chicha probably didnt do too well on training. But the sqouts should have players lined up anyway, because van Persie was old. Whatever they will be back some day. But it will take on or two "shitty seasons". It's that simple.

Also management is to blame for this. For example. PSV and Ajax (Ajax went earlier.) their management told everyone the club would go in a new direction. They would be playing with youths. They asked of the fans to have patience, because the squad would not be top of the Eredivisie at once. But they would try and find their way back eventually even in Europe. Ajax did manage to win the Eredivisie 4 times in a row a starting a year later. PSV has held the same traject for 3 years now. Last year we were league champions and finally came back to the Champions League. We've made it to the knockout stages which is huge if you see our budget and average age in the team. But my point is, both clubs now have a TEAM again. I can maybe say this 100000000 times and most of you wont even know what this means because you're so used to buying good players. Hell even Fergie did it in his last two years. What everybody seems to be forgetting is that he used to win with own players. They were used to a system they've played since they were five years old. The management should have seen this coming and openly stated that United has went in a new direction. One that feels logical and then come back stronger. But in stead of investing wisely, they've thrown about 215 million against players and try to see what sticks. This doens't work nor will it ever work. Team building is so much more important. But yes it takes time and a lot of frustration during that time. I can tell you every second is worth it. I can hardly remember how bad PSV were dureing the first and second year because of last and this year.


lets not forget that this is also his doing ^^


van gaal gets his apology :lol:


This post was edited by ampoo on Dec 24 2015 07:19am
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Dec 24 2015 07:39am
Quote (ampoo @ Dec 24 2015 01:01pm)
lets not forget that this is also his doing ^^


van gaal gets his apology :lol:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW8aW45WMAAtLPX.jpg


Pretty much spot on :lol:
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Quote (ampoo @ 24 Dec 2015 15:01)
lets not forget that this is also his doing ^^


van gaal gets his apology :lol:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW8aW45WMAAtLPX.jpg


I'd laugh if they have had the balls to say it at the press conference yesterday. There is no pride in writing it a day later. Smartasses. They really lost this battle imo.
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Dec 24 2015 08:28am
Quote (CpTJenJen @ Dec 24 2015 02:13pm)
I'd laugh if they have had the balls to say it at the press conference yesterday. There is no pride in writing it a day later. Smartasses. They really lost this battle imo.


lol? How can they say it when he took his toys and ran away?
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Dec 24 2015 08:52am
ok in response to all the text,

LVG does not deserve any sympathy nor any backing from other managers. even tho arsene and roberto just did.

For one, he spent a huge 250m budget and goes on to play fucking defensive poshesion football with that team. Man United playing defensive football? I only saw saf played twice like this. Vs barca at home in cl and another away to shitty which was that year they won the league dramatically.

Two, Substitutions. SAF nv once complicated things. We need a goal? he threw on a striker. We have no striker on the bench so what does LVG do when we needed a goal at bournemouth? With the score at 1-2, paddy gets injured and instead of young he threw on jones wtf?
and what about nick powell for mata in germany? nick could not even cut it in lester, with all due respect, and he threw on that young boy for mata in a do or die situation?

Three, playing crappy systems, putting players in crappy roles and position.
3-5-2, Our golden boy anthony played right wing for a good 60mins and was invisible and scores a goal immediately when reverted back centrally vs norwich. and 2 fucking holding midfielders in home games vs minows like newcastle, boro, PSV, westham etc etc wtf!


On a personal level, I am not one to call for our own manager's sacking unreasonably. Always backed moyes till the day he went out. You guys can scroll back the pages and you'll see it. LVG is destroying what it means to play for man united.
and he's still blabbering about his shit philosophy till today. Win lose or draw against stoke its still LVGOUT
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