Quote (Tredecim @ 6 Apr 2012 19:45)

Why does it "make no sense"? I'm comparing the 2 Leagues listed it makes 100% sense because La Liga > PL. Does it even include Serie A? No! So what's your point? Mine was that considering 1992-2012 La Liga > Premier League. A point you did not manage to disprove!
What you are saying is like saying a horse isn't bigger than a sheep just because an elephant is even bigger. You're the only one making no sense!

And the reason for England being higher ranked in UEFA ranking is obviously because it rewards runner ups, semi- and quarterfinalists especially from CL heavily. I didn't know you weren't aware of this. But I still think titles are more important - emphasis my friend! Also I already acknowledged that long ago:

La Liga will win the Cups, take over the #1 spot in UEFA rankings again and build up a new generation of excellent Spanish youth players while Premier League can gloat about the number of CL quarter and semi finalists, buy foreign stars for foreign oil money and cripple England's slim chances of winning anything in the near future in the process.

So next year you will finally agree that La Liga > Premier League because UEFA ranking says it too? 

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Why does it "make no sense"? I'm comparing the 2 Leagues listed it makes 100% sense because La Liga > PL. Does it even include Serie A? No! So what's your point? Mine was that considering 1992-2012 La Liga > Premier League. A point you did not manage to disprove!

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But I still think titles are more important

Quote (vygax @ Apr 6 2012 05:56pm)

Why are u prettending to be dumb?

My point is simple EPL is currently a better, stronger league than La Liga. Seria A was given to u just as an example to show that ur means of comparison is useless when we talk about league's strength today. So there u go: La Liga got more European titles. EPL is currently strongest domestic leagu in Europe. Or do u disagree?

Exactly. But just because u think it is, it doesn't mean that it actually is.

Quote (vygax @ Apr 6 2012 07:56pm)

Why are u prettending to be dumb?

My point is simple EPL is currently a better, stronger league than La Liga. Seria A was given to u just as an example to show that ur means of comparison is useless when we talk about league's strength today. So there u go: La Liga got more European titles. EPL is currently strongest domestic leagu in Europe. Or do u disagree?

Exactly. But just because u think it is, it doesn't mean that it actually is.

Quote (Pozer @ Apr 6 2012 07:57pm)

He's not pretending, he's a genuine moron.
Just ignore him and let this pathetic thread die.

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And just because YOU think more semis are more important it doesn't mean it's true either - this will remain a question of emphasis obviously!
Mine is titles, yours is many semifinals and runner-ups.

And what about next season? Will you still claim PL > La Liga? Because even UEFA ranking won't support your point of view then!

Quote (vygax @ Apr 6 2012 08:32pm)

I never used the rankings, to support my point before u actually brought it up,so...
Another thing: u still stick to ur titles hypothesis, eventho u see urself, that it's ez to manipulate these kind of facts in various situations. One could easily claim that Porto's been better club than Chelsea, Real etc, or Seria A better than EPL for past years, but simple common sense dictates othervise. But that, my dear sir, is not something u can google.
And u stil answer my question with a question. I asked u if u disagree, that EPl is currently strongest league in Europe, yet u chose to dodge...Again

Quote (Tredecim @ Apr 6 2012 06:48pm)

The irony coming from Dodgemaster D himself. 

Ok. I disagree that EPL is the strongest league in Europe. Their EL performances certainly indicate it and counteract the usual PL fanboy argument that La Liga are scrubs except from Barcelona and Real.

And by the way - the facts are not manipulated, the facts are facts - this actually happened! What you make out of them, what you read into it is up to you - if that's what you mean. My 1st post doesn't even include an opinion, I'm just listing facts there!

Now that I've answered all your questions, even I've already answered several pages before what about my question?
Will you still claim PL > La Liga next season? Because even UEFA ranking won't support your point of view then!

Quote (vygax @ Apr 6 2012 08:58pm)

So how can EPL be not the best league if the official ranking says othervise?

Quote (Tredecim @ Apr 6 2012 07:15pm)

Because your "official ranking" rewards semis and quarters too much.

Now stop dodging my questions: Will you still claim PL > La Liga next season? Because even UEFA ranking won't support your point of view then!