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Apr 21 2018 05:54am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 20 Apr 2018 16:24)
What I think is, is that he doesn't listen to critisism or pressure from other people. So I do think he is reflecting on this season which is much worse than any other season we had and he finally sees that he is not up to the current standards of the game anymore.
That being said, I don't think there was much pressure from the board at all, we all knew (and so did he) that he would never be sacked so the decision was purely in his half.



I agree, it's going to take a while for us to regain success, I would have preferred to have it with Wenger but it wasn't meant to be.
I'm just glad this Wengerour bullshit can finally stop now.


Can't stop thinking about how it will be without him, I just can't realize it..

Also I have a small feeling that Emery might become our new coach, really don't want it.


fair enough, maybe it was a bit harsh if you read my previous post as wenger not reflecting on the situation at all (and i honestly wanted it to be understood in the context of reflecting and coming to the conclusion that he's hurting the club). i'd still maintain that it would be surprising if he managed to assess the situation objectively (understandably so, don't get me wrong) and for sure there is a certain amount of pride involved that he did not address / listen to his early critics and people he rightfully considers to not have the inside and expertise to weigh in on the situation...

that being said, are you 100% certain that he would never have been sacked? that's hard to imagine honestly, and although you could argue that the fact that many football fans thought it was time for him to leave for quite a while now, and that is proof of your claim, i just can't really believe that pressure from management / ownership / fans / experts / club legends / press would not lead to so much pressure that'd result in his firing if he stubbornly held on to his job and arsenal kept developing like they currently do unfortunately - despite his well deserved legendary status. so i would not be surprised at all if that outlook (or someone outright communicating to him that this might be his future) played part in his decision...
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Apr 21 2018 09:34am
Quote (fender @ Apr 21 2018 12:54pm)
fair enough, maybe it was a bit harsh if you read my previous post as wenger not reflecting on the situation at all (and i honestly wanted it to be understood in the context of reflecting and coming to the conclusion that he's hurting the club). i'd still maintain that it would be surprising if he managed to assess the situation objectively (understandably so, don't get me wrong) and for sure there is a certain amount of pride involved that he did not address / listen to his early critics and people he rightfully considers to not have the inside and expertise to weigh in on the situation...

that being said, are you 100% certain that he would never have been sacked? that's hard to imagine honestly, and although you could argue that the fact that many football fans thought it was time for him to leave for quite a while now, and that is proof of your claim, i just can't really believe that pressure from management / ownership / fans / experts / club legends / press would not lead to so much pressure that'd result in his firing if he stubbornly held on to his job and arsenal kept developing like they currently do unfortunately - despite his well deserved legendary status. so i would not be surprised at all if that outlook (or someone outright communicating to him that this might be his future) played part in his decision...


I can understand you completely.

As for the sacking, I really think he would have been able to convince the board to keep on giving him more time. We've had so many low moments and points where he could have been sacked. (remember the plane flying over the Emirates, the 6-0 vs Chelsea, the 8-2 vs United, ...)
That being said, if we for some reason ended up 12th or worse, there would obviously be the possibility that he would get sacked, but at that point I think he would have rather quit himself than be sacked.

He's a stubborn man, that's for sure, but I think even he (finally) knew it was time for him to go even tho he still had a year left on his contract.


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Apr 21 2018 12:03pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 20 Apr 2018 14:19)
It's still hurts to see him go. He's been here for over 22 years and I'm only 23 years old. I've never knewn another coach so it's reaching in the dark for me atm.

It's going to be so weird seeing someone else in the dugout.


same situation here bro
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Apr 21 2018 01:18pm
I also think he’s been told to go
In order to keep every bullshit away from him they make it look like it’s his decision
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Apr 21 2018 01:40pm
Quote (Andi @ 21 Apr 2018 21:18)
I also think he’s been told to go
In order to keep every bullshit away from him they make it look like it’s his decision


agreed, there were so many chances to go before and he does have a year left on his contract if i am not mistaken

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Apr 22 2018 08:25am
Needed that win, always felt we were going to win it tho.

Play wasn't the best, but my god if we need to keep one player it's Ramsey. Such a beauty to watch.
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Apr 24 2018 11:46am
try to get Favre imho!
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Apr 25 2018 01:28am
Quote (Speckham23 @ Apr 24 2018 06:46pm)
try to get Favre imho!


Stated aswell (don't know if here) that I'd like Favre as our new coach. Doubt it will happen tho :(
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Apr 25 2018 06:19am
wenger is a good coach but theres better now and they need a bit of refreshing
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Apr 25 2018 12:06pm
wenger's earlier comments regarding supporters' lack of unity already suggested it, this one basically settles it: as i suspected, the decision to step down at the end of the season was made under some serious external pressure:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11346130/arsene-wenger-suggests-arsenal-departure-timing-not-my-decision
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