Mourinho being sent off actually what puzzles me. When he gets sent off it's normaly done on purpose in home games to fire up the crowd, playing away it doesn't make much sense... he didn't seem to do anything too weird either, I mean "leaving his area and arguing my decisions" is something that's normally settled with a warning. Even though I'm not fond of referee conspiracy theories, the ref probably does hold a grudge against him though since he publicly attacked the way he handles games (which is indeed terrible, he cards when possible in most matches), so I'm not surprised he sent him off at the slightest chance, but I don't see why he would take it on Özil though.

Oh dear lord. The ref was terrible, but he wasnt terrible to Madrid only. He blew his whistle in the east, north and then the west and south.
Fact is that when things go against Jose and the Madrid team they do this. Its not a coincidence that these things happen when 1 of the teams are Madrid.

This post was edited by Sunshines on Mar 22 2012 03:33pm

I'm saying the ref is terrible always, not only in this match. I also said a few pages back that RM brought this on themselves for playing like crap most of the match.

But it's not that Madrid does this always, there were no incidents when they drew against Málaga, CSKA, Racing,...

the only other time this has happened this season was against Barça

When they happen its always madrid as one of the teams. Also I agree. the referee in spain are terrible but they're terrible in every game. Barca, madrid, sevilla mallorca the name of the club doesnt matter. Its just funny as madrid fans try to blame the draw on the ref seeing he didnt influence the game in villareals favor

Well the ref's performance helped Villareal more (Villareal's kepper even admited it), but it's not an excuse; what most damage did to RM yesterday was RM itself.

And these things don't happen only when Madrid plays, if you follow other teams in La Liga you ill see this happens quite frequently. This is the last one that comes to mind, 3 weeks ago between Sevilla and Sporting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcD_OKEQtpg

And I'm not saying all refs are bad, there are actually a few good refs in Spain. The problem with this some of them (like this one) is that they constantly blow the whistle and also card a lot and never try to settle things through dialouge, they like showing who is boss by carding, carding and carding.

I was more thinking of top teams acting like Madrid. You hardly find any who act as Madrid does. Its getting a bad habit but ill guess its all over when jose leaves for england in the summer.
Also how did the referee help villareal? sure, a few missed penalties must have been a great help since they probably wouldnt score on them so he just saved their asses for being humiliated?

lol.

one of the shirt pulls was poenalty, the other one you can get like 10 in every match... if we get oversensitive it can also be said that Pepe got a yellow for acting up and asking the ref to card Villareal's player while the camera showed that Pepe was actually bleeding from the hit.

And what do you mean by top teams? if we are talking in a national level, Sevilla should be considered a strong side and they were one of the sides of the video I posted. If we consider top european clubs, the only other club that suffers spanish refereeing is Barça. And it's not like Barça is completely clean, in their defeat against Osasuna, they recieved 7 cards, Mascherano was sent off for arguing and Guardiola and Tito Vilanova recieved warnings from the ref.... which by the way was the same ref from yesterday's Villareal-Madrid, lol seriously he is terrible and it's this kind of referreeing that has a lot to do with these incidents.

Jose leaving?

You would be a fool arguing that it hasnt something to do with real madrid and their leader jose. it ALWAYS end up like this when things go against them. Receiving a warning from the ref is pretty much nothing, it happens a lot while having 2 players sent of and half the coaching staff + cards after the whistle, well thats something.

of course it has something to do with it, but Mourinho isn't the main or only reason this happens. The main reason is the attitude most spanish refs have because like I said and prooved every team in Spain has gone through these events every now and then, and only RM is coached by Mourinho. It is indeed because of Mourinho that this happens more often to RM compared to Barça, but it's undeniable that Mourinho isn't the only reason this happens because Barça (aswell as the rest of the teams in la Liga) go through this aswell every now and then. And like I said, it doesn't always happen, they also drew against Málaga, Racing or CSKA for example and there weren't any incidents.