Bayern Munich U19 is not even close to Germany's best U19 teams. There are youth squads from teams not even in Bundesliga that would possibly destroy any English team in Youth CL except Arsenal.

This post was edited by aneas on Feb 3 2016 04:13pm

LOL.chelsea/arsenal and possibly city would literally crush any german team.
Especially chelsea, last year they were literally miles ahead of everyone.

E/ u are one clueless mofo
Also not sure why u said only arsenal, when they are not even top 4?? http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u18-premier-league-tables.html?paramYouthStage=NATIONAL

This post was edited by chelsea11 on Feb 3 2016 04:29pm

zero fucks given about your "successful" bought youth teams orian
and only idiots like you care about this youth cl doesnt mean anything

our clubs work with local talents and try to develop them instead of going shopping
and they produce results for the senior teams, while nobody ever hears about your randoms again

Bought??? Lol the players we buy we loan out, our youth team does not buy players.
Ur mad because bayern has a shit youth, and idek why ur mad becuase u support Hamburg.

It's not all about the current placement in the league... but that's the usual reaction from someone defending BPL.

In BPL it's all about statistics and trading this player for that other one or selling them and buying new ones in the hopes of getting lucky ONCE and getting a decent team together.
BPL managers and also fans behave a lot like they're playing Football Manager cpmputer games.

Take the youth suads of Freiburg (2nd Bundesliga), Stuttgart (currently struggling obviously), Schalke, Dortmund and Hoffenheim over the last decade and you won't find a single BPL club with a youth team even comparable in quality and also amount of decent BPL players produced.

It's not a coincidence that you cannot find an English club competing in UCL that starts with more than 2-3 English players on average.
Just compare the number of English starters for BPL teams to the number of German starters in Bundesliga teams from this year's group stage:

City = 2
United = 2-3
Chelsea = 1
Arsenal = 1-2

Bayern = 4-5
Wolfsburg = 4-5
Leverkusen = 5
Gladbach = 2-3

When Bayern and Dortmund played in the UCL final, they had 6-7 German players each, while Chelsea only had 3 when they beat Bayern the year before. If you can't see how this is in a way related to your youth teams being weak or their coaches being under-qualified for their respective jobs, it's no wonder you love BPL so much^^

La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A = football.
Premier League = entertainment.

That's it and tbh I don't expect anything more from a league where someone like John Stones is glorified to the level of being the next Ramos, Terry or Maldini after two more or less decent seasons and at the age of 21 while still struggling with the most standard of positional play required as a CB.

This post was edited by aneas on Feb 3 2016 05:04pm

I hope ur not talking about sergio ramos? To even put him in the same line as terry or maldini is insane. This guy does not know how to defend.

Also for me I don't give a shit about english players lol, could care less how their national team does. I only care about how Chelsea does and if they happen to have some talented english youth players such as RLC , Solanke, Brown then ofc I want them to succeed BUT it's much harder for them to play in the premier league than if they were in Germany or Spain or Italy.

I hope the FA don't produce too many restrictions on how many homegrown players each team needs... I like how the prem is diverse

This post was edited by chelsea11 on Feb 3 2016 08:11pm

Kind of funny that you'd keep making such hilarious excuses and unbacked claims when in reality your first squad (logically better than your youth players) can't even get a victory over a team like Watford starting with 3 players who all failed more or less completely in Bundesliga and already have or will be replaced by their former German teams' own younger talents, like Jurado was by 18-year-old Draxler at Schalke 04.

Don't get me wrong. BPL might be on the right track to catch up with the rest of Europe and their teams have all the tools (i.e. money) to do so, but right now even the greatest of BPL's young talents couldn't hold a candle to their Spanish, German or Portuguese counterparts.

Again, it's not a coincidence that Positional Play and Gegenpressing had been well-known ideas almost all around the European football community, yet BPL had to wait for foreign coaches like Laudrup, Villas-Boas or Klopp to introduce and explain those tactical variations, before media even coined a term for them.
To this day, neither Chelsea, nor Manchester United (let alone Manchester City) are able to either cope with opponents decently executing those playstyles or try to play such styles themselves.
Funny how for example a guy like Jonathan Wilson tries to explain Gegenpressing/counter-pressing in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbkUqUkuQPM and doesn't get a single aspect of it right.

Until recently, for years and years you've watched people like Martin Keown and Gary Neville ask (on expert panels) why BPL clubs were defending so badly and - as a conclusion - reduce those weaknesses to individual mistakes, individual lack of talent or individual lack of ceoncentration, while completely ignoring the behaviour of the rest of the team in the situations leading up to those mistakes. Players in BPL are always only seen as and evaluated for their individual skills and seemingly only assigned 1 or 2 very specific tasks, while the team's organization as a whole group and players' positioning in relation to others is almost completely forgotten... that's why offensive players in general - and especially foreign ones with high individual class - are getting more and more attention and are able to really shine in BPL and score more and more goals each season. Individual quality is growing from year to year, while defensive problems are ignored or misinterpreted. And that's also a reason for many foreign coaches struggling when they first come to BPL. Their teams are totally under-developed in many key aspects of the game.

This post was edited by aneas on Feb 4 2016 08:35am

So why don't these most excellent and gifted European managers fix these problems with unlimited cash?

Using villas boas, one of the biggest premier league managerial flops as an example is probably a stupid idea too.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But the premier league has some of the best European managers around. Why, if they have such amazing tactical nous, are they not changing things?

This post was edited by WNxIrvine on Feb 4 2016 08:38am

please dont use that word in here

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