again displaying your lack of reading comprehension skills... and zark has been an özil hater for years now, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, plz stop that casual football fan rhetoric, it's embarrassing...

you're so focused on what you can criticise him for (just like with kroos and with hummels when he still played for dortmund) that you completely miss the bigger picture... i wonder where that hate for özil comes from...

Ozil is literally a peasant beater and that's it

nice try playing the racism card, thats the best you can do?
i cant stand players with this kind of attitude, period

you are talking abot the "bigger picture" (what is that even ), everyone is criticizing him, journalists, commentators, former professionals and tv guys, all clueless right?
you fail to realise that you are pretty much alone with your opinion, except some özil fanboys

its a good thing you mentioned kroos and hummels
kroos has taken it to the next level since he left bayern and massively improved the things i didnt like about him, i have no problem admitting that and he made everything right
hummels got a lot of criticism from me and rightly so with his regular fuck ups back in the day, however he has been rock-solid and one of our best players this season

meanwhile özil hasnt done anything at all, shining when the rest shines against ludogorets and sunderland, goes missing against bayern and chelsea

he made his best game vs. England, when it was still a dencent challenge to beat them. Always gonna love him for that...

Dude, shut it with world cup already.

Bastian won the final almost singlehandedly and it was very close, Ozil has been meh throughout the whole tournament. No wonder he could not split up the great defence consisting of zabaleta, rojo, garay and wait for it...DEMICHELIS. Lets not forget BIGLIA and PEREZ, other first row names.

wait what now, racism? dude, you seem to have some real issues there. in case you haven't noticed, i also criticised you for talking clueless shit about kroos and hummels in the sentence leading right up to that - so how do you conclude when i question your hate for özil it's all of a sudden about "race"? believe me, you're waaaay off with that, and don't even try to blame that on me, that's 100% you own insecurity speaking...

also, you need to distinguish between criticising a player (if your reading comprehension didn't let you down so hard, you would have noticed that one of the first things i said about özil is that he indeed is in bad form atm!) and furthering casual football fan myths about a player because you lack the insight to recognise their quality. so your whole argumentum ad populum falls short there...

Just because I point out his flaws, doesn't mean I'm a hater. For instance I've always said Carlo was a very mediocre tactician and relied on the players individual performance (generally that's not a problem because he's good at getting the players to be happy and work well), but I was sad when he was fired and thought he deserved to stay in Madrid.

All these people pointing out Mesut's invisibility in big games... wow, such haters; they're all clueless. It's totally the 1% of deluded unbiased knowledgeable analysts that truly understand...

I don't think anyone is denying his class. He's a superb player to have in any squad... just not one you want to use in big games.

nice dodge, so all the experts and former professionals saying the same things zark and my humble self are saying are clueless as well?

so criticizing hummels back then, when barely 2 games went by without him giving away a cheap was clueless shit? hahaha
and do you really believe that bayern would not have kept kroos at all cost, if he had played at the same level for bayern? thats clueless indeed

i already said that i am fully aware of özils qualities, but you simply dont get away with this kind of play, no matter how good you are





This post was edited by ampoo on Feb 16 2017 06:19am

talk about a dodge, already done with your little "racist" storyline? no comment, huh?

and no, blowing small mistakes out of proportion and even blaming a player for mistakes he had no influence on, as you did on a regular basis with hummels, is not the same as rightfully criticising him for his many mistakes. your OWN logic in the very next sentence disproves you: do you really believe bayern would have spent that much money and fan credit on buying yet another dortmund player if hummels was as bad and unreliable as you made it sound back then? clueless indeed, just like your evaluation concerning kroos at bayern, who was massive already but bayern didn't want to pay him schweini / müller / lahm kind of money. even after proving his value, they were to arrogant to admit he's worth that, let him go, and instead decided to overpay alonso like crazy, haha...

also, i know that alternative facts are insanely popular these days, but the whole ad populum fallacy you and zark keep mistaking for an actual argument is NOT based on facts.

lastly, you have proven to be someone who can't even read an article properly, so i shouldn't be surprised you'd consider a low- or highlight youtube video conclusive proof, but you can do that about every player to make them look either incredibly bad or the next maradona, and i'm not even saying he didn't have an abysmal game there against city. just shows your level of commitment to questionable "arguments" and making him look bad...