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Jun 24 2017 07:40am
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MARADONA >>>


Let's not get carried away. Nobody was better than Ronaldo
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Jun 24 2017 08:19am
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MARADONA >>>


you woot?
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Jun 24 2017 09:20am
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you woot?


i think maradona is the greatest player of all times. zidane is a legend, no doubt about it, but imo maradona is untouchable...
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i think maradona is the greatest player of all times. zidane is a legend, no doubt about it, but imo maradona is untouchable...


Agreed.
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Jun 24 2017 09:54am
valid choice of course

at least zidane didnt need the hand of god to win a wc :ph34r:
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valid choice of course

at least zidane didnt need the hand of god to win a wc :ph34r:


Well he also had better team mates and home advantage, but that's a true point nonetheless ^^

But tbh I don't rate Maradona as the GOAT for all the amazing stuff he achieved with Argentina, but for the stuff he did with Napoli. Carrying that mediocre team to two Scudetti in such a competitive league where they had to face that Juve that won all European trophies, Sacchi's Milan, Trappatoni's Inter, and other teams like Roma or Sampdoria that had a better team at the time, etc is amazing, and something that imo puts him above everyone else. I can understand other people preferring someone else, but to me those achievements are unrivaled.
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Jun 24 2017 10:14am
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valid choice of course

at least zidane didnt need the hand of god to win a wc :ph34r:


yeah, he "only" needed a stacked team (barthez, blanc, desailly, thuram, lizarazu, deschamps, vieira, djorkaeff, henry, trezeguet...) to do so. and let's not forget the goal of the century that maradona scored just 5 minutes later.

i'm obviously just half serious, neither do i want to defend maradona's hand goal, nor do i want to diminish zidanes outstanding talent that even outshone such a great team. zidane is obviously a very valid pick, i just personally rate maradona's accomplishments / skill / impact higher...
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Jun 24 2017 10:16am
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Well he also had better team mates and home advantage, but that's a true point nonetheless ^^

But tbh I don't rate Maradona as the GOAT for all the amazing stuff he achieved with Argentina, but for the stuff he did with Napoli. Carrying that mediocre team to two Scudetti in such a competitive league where they had to face that Juve that won all European trophies, Sacchi's Milan, Trappatoni's Inter, and other teams like Roma or Sampdoria that had a better team at the time, etc is amazing, and something that imo puts him above everyone else. I can understand other people preferring someone else, but to me those achievements are unrivaled.


absolutely, how he carried his teams is truly unique in the history of football

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yeah, he "only" needed a stacked team (barthez, blanc, desailly, thuram, lizarazu, deschamps, vieira, djorkaeff, henry, trezeguet...) to do so. and let's not forget the goal of the century that maradona scored just 5 minutes later.

i'm obviously just half serious, neither do i want to defend maradona's hand goal, nor do i want to diminish zidanes outstanding talent that even outshone such a great team. zidane is obviously a very valid pick, i just personally rate maradona's accomplishments / skill / impact higher...


:p

This post was edited by ampoo on Jun 24 2017 10:16am
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Jun 24 2017 10:29am
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i think maradona is the greatest player of all times. zidane is a legend, no doubt about it, but imo maradona is untouchable...


Exactly this.
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Jun 24 2017 11:02am
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i think maradona is the greatest player of all times. zidane is a legend, no doubt about it, but imo maradona is untouchable...



Well FYI most people think/know that Messi and Ronaldo are untouchable. Especially Messi.
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