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May 23 2017 04:32pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 24 May 2017 00:27)
3 years ago we spent half of that on CL and WC champion Kroos. This guys has only played a couple of professional games ffs...

Maybe he will become a world class superstar like many brazilian coaches and former football players say, but it's still very risky prediction. You can demolish the opposition in the youth leagues and then turn out to be crap/mediocre (Assulin, Amunike, Portillo, Marin, Le Tallec, Sinama, etc).

It's not that this is a risky move because he isn't proven top european league or club. It's not that this is a risky move because he isn't proven outside of Brazill. It's a ridiculously risky move because he isn't even proven playing against adults.

Spending 3M€ on him like we did with Odegaard is fine. Spending 45M€ is beyond retarded. It doesn't matter if he becomes the new Pelé (although I definitely hope so), there is no way of justifying such a risky move.


yeah, i mean like spending a few million bucks alright, but this ^^
this is even more ridiculous than our renato sanches move and that is an expensive experiment already

and as you said, adult football is a completely different world, there are few talents that are so good that there is no doubt (like the top 1% of the top 1%)
other than that its just :bonk:
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May 23 2017 10:14pm
Quote (ampoo @ May 23 2017 06:32pm)
yeah, i mean like spending a few million bucks alright, but this ^^
this is even more ridiculous than our renato sanches move and that is an expensive experiment already

and as you said, adult football is a completely different world, there are few talents that are so good that there is no doubt (like the top 1% of the top 1%)
other than that its just :bonk:


then a young boy named Lionel Messi shows up one day
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May 25 2017 12:12am
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May 25 2017 08:49am
Cristiano Ronaldo is facing possible charges of tax fraud in Spain.

Prosecutors have passed a file to the country's tax office, which will decide whether to press charges against the Portuguese Real Madrid striker.

Reports in Spain say Ronaldo, 32, is suspected of defrauding 15m euros(£13m) between 2011 and 2014.

In December, leaked documents suggested Ronaldo had avoided tax on income from image rights allegedly held in offshore accounts. He denied the claims.

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho was also implicated in those claims - published after an international consortium of journalists obtained a trove of about 18 million documents. He also denied the claims.

Fucking top kek. All the abuse messi got on here too. Ouch. :rofl:
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May 25 2017 08:52am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 25 May 2017 10:49)
Cristiano Ronaldo is facing possible charges of tax fraud in Spain.

Prosecutors have passed a file to the country's tax office, which will decide whether to press charges against the Portuguese Real Madrid striker.

Reports in Spain say Ronaldo, 32, is suspected of defrauding 15m euros(£13m) between 2011 and 2014.

In December, leaked documents suggested Ronaldo had avoided tax on income from image rights allegedly held in offshore accounts. He denied the claims.

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho was also implicated in those claims - published after an international consortium of journalists obtained a trove of about 18 million documents. He also denied the claims.

Fucking top kek. All the abuse messi got on here too. Ouch. :rofl:

if he gets charged and convicted of tax fraud, he will get the same abuse. until then it isn't the same situation.
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May 25 2017 09:42am
Quote (WNxIrvine @ 25 May 2017 16:49)
Cristiano Ronaldo is facing possible charges of tax fraud in Spain.

Prosecutors have passed a file to the country's tax office, which will decide whether to press charges against the Portuguese Real Madrid striker.

Reports in Spain say Ronaldo, 32, is suspected of defrauding 15m euros(£13m) between 2011 and 2014.

In December, leaked documents suggested Ronaldo had avoided tax on income from image rights allegedly held in offshore accounts. He denied the claims.

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho was also implicated in those claims - published after an international consortium of journalists obtained a trove of about 18 million documents. He also denied the claims.

Fucking top kek. All the abuse messi got on here too. Ouch. :rofl:


It doesn't matter if it's Messi or Cristiano doing it, thieves are a disgrace and should be punished. Crisitano is still innocent atm though.

This post was edited by zarkadon on May 25 2017 09:43am
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May 26 2017 07:38pm
Quote (zarkadon @ May 25 2017 04:42pm)
It doesn't matter if it's Messi or Cristiano doing it, thieves are a disgrace and should be punished. Crisitano is still innocent atm though.








Messi evaded in 2007-2009: 4,1M€ for spots TV in america = pay 50M € to hacienda and endure 5 years in spanish ress (madrid press) insults and covers of all types every day.

Cr7 evade 2009 - 2015: 150M€+8M€ And all quiet, he is innocent.

They found their mother carrying a lot of evasion money at the airport, innocent.

It was previously published in the Portuguese press for evading and an endless number of irregularities (like all Mendes boys)

The problem is that who has to judge this in spain is more Madridista than the participants of this thread.

The company of the president of Real Madrid (ACS) is the most evading of all the companies of the post Franco oligarchy of Spain.

Something happens? Nothing, who has to judge live it in the santiago bernabeu stadium every week, it does not matter.
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May 26 2017 09:43pm
Quote (zarkadon @ May 25 2017 11:42am)
It doesn't matter if it's Messi or Cristiano doing it, thieves are a disgrace and should be punished. Crisitano is still innocent atm though.


Donald Trump doesn't pay his taxes either. I wouldn't go so far to say it is thieving.
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May 26 2017 10:41pm
Quote (zarkadon @ May 25 2017 11:42am)
It doesn't matter if it's Messi or Cristiano doing it, thieves are a disgrace and should be punished. Crisitano is still innocent atm though.


agreed, the people trying to steal their money should be punished.
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May 27 2017 04:56am
Quote (Zekdawg @ 27 May 2017 05:43)
Donald Trump doesn't pay his taxes either. I wouldn't go so far to say it is thieving.


If you're receiving services from the state and you're not paying back, it's pretty much theft. You can't eat at a restaurant and not pay the bill.

You can argue that it's unfair that individuals are forced to pay for services they didn't ask for, or that it's unfair that some people have to pay more than others for those services, but these are the laws we have here and anyone who doesn't like them is free to move somewhere else, this isn't a giant prison like North Korea.

Quote (cambovenzi @ 27 May 2017 06:41)
agreed, the people trying to steal their money should be punished.


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