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Apr 18 2017 03:43pm
Quote (fender @ 18 Apr 2017 22:30)
the call in game one was a gift for bayern and it's their own fault they didn't convert, agree 100% on this one. also, after javi had been sent off (absolutely justifiable btw), bayern was lucky not to concede even more goals.

tonight, however, it was a completely different story. the penalty vs. robben was clearly correct, while what you described as "the same" on the other side was a clear dive by a player who should have been sent off multiple times already...
and even with bayern being one man down (for again, a perfectly valid tackle), they held their own until madrid was gifted an offside goal that forced münchen to open up even more and killing their small chance of making it to the penalties at least.

i completely understand that you hate the club, being a die-hard fan of their city rivals, but your bias in this case is really ridiculous, why not just celebrate their exit without embarrassing yourself trying to make it sound like this was "deserved" tonight...



Fair and square - your opinion
The more often I watch the Robben scene the more dive it is to me
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Apr 18 2017 03:45pm
Quote (Marieusz @ 18 Apr 2017 23:41)
Was an entertaining game, I don't know how Bayern fans feel though, that was an abject performance from them, they didn't look like they wanted to win at all, literally a dive for a penalty and crazy fluke own goal was all they could muster, they had a completely impotent attack which was shocking

When I saw that Robben dive for the penalty I felt sick that this prick might steal another result with his cheating nonsense, the Ronaldo winner was offside and Vidal should have been sent off much earlier for that nasty tackle and the game would have changed, but after that Robben dive I was officially rooting for Bayern to get smashed

Here's the dive

http://imgur.com/vJwHWnm.gif

I felt you didn't look that sharp today, numerous 2v1 and 3v2 counters that you are usually so ruthless with came to nothing

As for Marcelo, I genuinely love watching him play now, the early years he was so erratic and a liability with flashes of attacking quality, but now he is such a matured, calm and skillful player, really is solid on both ends of the pitch, best left back in the world for sure


I personally wouldn't have given that penalty or the one on Casemiro, and I wouldn't have sent off neither Vidal nor Casemiro... but I have a very lenient mentality, so...

The ref was inconsistent sadly.... either they are both pks and both sent off, or neither... stupid lack of criteria.
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Apr 18 2017 03:46pm
It's the second leg of a fucking CL quarter final, let them play. Don't decide the outcome, or hell, why not, lets fucking decide the outcome rofl
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Apr 18 2017 03:51pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 18 Apr 2017 22:42)
I don't think we will win it tbh,

No team has won 2 CLs in a row since 1990, and I really don't see how this Madrid is any better than many of the 26 teams that have come before and failed. Obviously I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt we will win it. It will be Juve or Atlético imo.



the only challenge will be barca or juve.atletico always fails vs real and dortmund/monaco have no chance imo
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Apr 18 2017 03:53pm
Quote (Andi @ 18 Apr 2017 22:43)
Fair and square - your opinion
The more often I watch the Robben scene the more dive it is to me


casemiro doesn't even come close to the ball, he makes the big step towards robben and hits the dutchman's left foot with his right one while getting completely into his way (again, without the ball being involved).
that's a penalty imo. does robben have to fall here? i don't think so, he maybe could have carried on even but that's most certainly NOT a dive.

casemiro on the other side runs towards boateng, kicks the ball away and then throws himself to the ground while running parallel to boateng who stands perfectly upright. i don't know in which regard you consider this "the same", but i think it's not even close to being the same.

and while the ref had been generous towards casemiro TWICE after his booking, he gave vidal the benefit of the doubt just ONCE and ultimately sent him off for a LEGAL tackle...
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the only challenge will be barca or juve.atletico always fails vs real and dortmund/monaco have no chance imo


If we somehow manage to come back from 0-3, we'll win the entire thing. We'll be so motivated we'll run over Real this weekend and take the league as well.
However, I'm doubtful we can win vs Juve tomorrow so we'll be without titles this year unless we win the Copa Del Rey rofl
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Apr 18 2017 03:53pm
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I personally wouldn't have given that penalty or the one on Casemiro, and I wouldn't have sent off neither Vidal nor Casemiro... but I have a very lenient mentality, so...

The ref was inconsistent sadly.... either they are both pks and both sent off, or neither... stupid lack of criteria.


vidal could have been sent off earlier, but casemiro wtf man
caused the pen on a yellow and three more fouls....

our pen was pretty clear tbh even if its robben ^^
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Apr 18 2017 03:59pm
Quote (umade @ 18 Apr 2017 22:53)
If we somehow manage to come back from 0-3, we'll win the entire thing. We'll be so motivated we'll run over Real this weekend and take the league as well.
However, I'm doubtful we can win vs Juve tomorrow so we'll be without titles this year unless we win the Copa Del Rey rofl



well thats what i expected after you won vs psg but then you gave the game away once again as you did vs psg.if someone can comeback its barca at home imo but ye juve is another level than psg

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Apr 18 2017 04:00pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Apr 18 2017 07:45pm)
I personally wouldn't have given that penalty or the one on Casemiro, and I wouldn't have sent off neither Vidal nor Casemiro... but I have a very lenient mentality, so...

The ref was inconsistent sadly.... either they are both pks and both sent off, or neither... stupid lack of criteria.

I agree, dont give anything unless you are sure or start using video reviews, but that was the turning point, one typical Robben dive and the momentum completely shifted, Bayern looked miserable before that and incapable of creating anything of note then suddenly they were motivated and invigorated. I've seen Bayern were offside in the build up to the Ramos own goal too, will need to look at that some more. The refs were terrible all round, we can all agree that

Bayern have lost some key players from their strong team of recent years, I think two more just played their last CL games today? Alonso and Lahm? I'm not sure how much of a threat they can pose, this performance makes you question if they have that next step anymore

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Quote (Andi @ Apr 18 2017 08:04pm)
My point exactly
Robben could have easily kept the balance but prefered to go down
That's why I said no Penalty to me - awful behaviour

Agree on your point concerning casemiro/Vidal - then again not sending off Vidal was the first major blow of the ref
Had he sent off Vidal I doubt casemiro would have come even close to a (second) bookable offene

If Vidal was sent off when he should of been most of this is moot, ifs and buts... The ref was terrible from top to bottom today

This post was edited by Marieusz on Apr 18 2017 04:06pm
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Quote (fender @ 18 Apr 2017 22:53)
casemiro doesn't even come close to the ball, he makes the big step towards robben and hits the dutchman's left foot with his right one while getting completely into his way (again, without the ball being involved).
that's a penalty imo. does robben have to fall here? i don't think so, he maybe could have carried on even but that's most certainly NOT a dive.

casemiro on the other side runs towards boateng, kicks the ball away and then throws himself to the ground while running parallel to boateng who stands perfectly upright. i don't know in which regard you consider this "the same", but i think it's not even close to being the same.

and while the ref had been generous towards casemiro TWICE after his booking, he gave vidal the benefit of the doubt just ONCE and ultimately sent him off for a LEGAL tackle...



My point exactly
Robben could have easily kept the balance but prefered to go down
That's why I said no Penalty to me - awful behaviour

Agree on your point concerning casemiro/Vidal - then again not sending off Vidal was the first major blow of the ref
Had he sent off Vidal I doubt casemiro would have come even close to a (second) bookable offene
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