This turned into an unnecessary hate thread. As to the original question: Do I think spurs will finish top 4...I wouldn't bet on it. Can we absolutely but I don't think the odds are in our favor. However who knows what United will do and if they have another disappointin season then we absolutely have a realistic chance.

Ade needs to be a prolific scorer...needs a ~20 goal season. I heard a mention that our fullbacks are shit and while I don't rate them highly I think many people forget that we have Ben Davies who I'm sure is an upgrade over Rose (who hasn't disappointed). Hopefully Chadli can have more displays like yesterday but I wouldn't bank on it, but I have faith I'm Townsend if we hold on to him.

I could see Liverpool going through a similar transition period with all their new signings like spurs did last year. Should be a very entertaining season.

So with Dawson leaving, who is most likely to become the next captain? Chance Vertonghen could get the armband?

I can see Lloris or Vertonghen but my guess would be with Hugo

I guess Kaboul is no option because of his injuries?

Will most likely be Lloris then seeing he always plays

I thought about Kaboul but yeah with his injury issues I don't see him getting the captain.

Both of them made noises about leaving the club last year if they didn't get champions league, it didn't end up happening but it's still a sign of disrespect to the club.

Beaten by a true top 4 team today, if I was a Spurs fan I'd sell all the deadwood like Soldado and just sign a good quality centre back and striker.

They need a striker, they signed Fazio and Chiriches is back too.

Chiriches has been an awefull buy so far.

Dier is a great but, they just need a good striker.

I guess he'll have to step up because they got lots of CB's now.