Quote (DJVIP @ 4 May 2018 18:03)
As I’m Swedish I’m not familiar with all the terms in english but I’ll try to keep it simple.
Supply and demand also defines value in some cases, I never said it didn’t. It totally depends what you want to value though and in what way you want to value as there are 100 different ways to put a value on different things. If you look at a player as an asset in a company for instance, you can’t just say that the players value is the market value (unless you work as an accountant as you have to do that by law).
One simple example can be that Barcelona looked at how much money Coutinho will bring in to Barcelona and came to the conclusion that he’ll bring in 500 million dollars in three years. If the Coutinho transfer only brought 100 million dollars after 3 years then they have missjudged the value, therefore payed more than the ”real” value should have been in that case.
My point with this is, it’s not only about supply and demand and looking at who wants to pay how much. If Liverpool knew that Coutinho had a permanent back injury but didn’t tell Barcelona about it would he still be worth 150M? In Barcelonas eyes maybe, because they think he’s 100% fit, but not in ”real” value as he won’t even be able to play a game if he has a permanent injury. Just because someone is prepared to pay a certain amount of money for something doesn’t make it worth that much. It’s not in any way guaranteed that Barcelona will get value for their money.
There you go, two very simple examples.
And whats wrong with working in finance lol?
You don’t answer my question - I was asking for the
right way to determine the value of a player. What you give is an explanation why it might not be appropriate in some exceptions. Well I am aware that there are exceptions - if the player has a buyout clause the price doesn’t always fit the real value, in case there is only 1 year left on the contract the transfer fee might not fit the real value either. There are plenty of other exceptions as well
FUrthermore you state the development of the value which is quite natural. Like Dembele you can have a major injury just after the transfer which might decrease the value.
Value rises and fades - only natural with assets
That doesn’t change the fact that both countinho‘s and Dembele‘s price was 150M. That being said we don’t even know what Barcelona was willing to offer and whether or not the maximum was reached. So as a conclusion the value for both players was AT LEAST 150M
And even if supply and demand comes with flaws the objective evaluation of transfermarkt for dybala is 100M (on a sidenote transfermarkt is very cautious and often tends to evaluate lower than the actual transfer fee).
Both FACTS prove people that claim „no player is worth 100M“ clearly wrong, whether you like it or not.
So called „facts“ like „none of the players performs so none is worth 100M“ are just pathetic arguments.
And to stop digressing:
Countinho isn’t autorised to play in CL after having played for another club this campaign ( common sense says hello)
Dembele has had 2 major injuries this year and as a 19 year old needs to adapt to a new country, new league, new style of play, new expectations. As a consequence he has played 5 (!) minutes vs Roma
So these 2 guys clearly were „rekt“ by Roma.
Just how stupid can it get?
When you thought you reached rock-bottom just look into the Bayern thread