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Jul 23 2016 04:33am
Quote (Marieusz @ Jul 23 2016 06:24am)
First priority is you need a striker, forget signing more midfielders


Benzema and morata are enough with only 1 spot as a striker.. Atleast it is enough for a team like real
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Jul 23 2016 05:11am
Quote (Marieusz @ 23 Jul 2016 12:24)
First priority is you need a striker, forget signing more midfielders


The club has already said we are keeping Morata, so I don't think anyone will be signed for that position.

Quote (kbk @ 23 Jul 2016 05:08)
I guess by interesting I mean to see them start with an attack of Ronaldo-Nani. A striker less formation and as you said, a point I agree with, is that Ronaldo must play with a striker.

In any case I believe a front 3 of Ronaldo-Benzema-Bale is stronger than a front 3 of Ronaldo- one of Benzema/Bale and James behind. That front 3 is only second to Barcelona.

Why is Bale so under appreciated zark? Do his performances leave that much to be desired? I think he's an absolutely amazing talent. And for me, in the CL final he looked like the only good attacker. Ronaldo played hurt and was very poor (worst I've seen of him), and that was one of the worst games I've ever seen from Benzema I've ever seen in my life. Morata will bench the shit out of him if he had plays like that this season.

But Benzema had a summer off (lol), so he should be good this season.


Well, Bale hasn't beed under appreciated this season tbf. It was mostly a 2014-15 thing. He was under appreciated becaue of his work rate and team work wasn't that good, but this season he has really improved in that department.

You would often see Madrid's 4-3-3 formation look like 4-3-----------------------3, because nobody from the attacking line would drop back down. And Bale is supposed to be the one to serve more as the team's link there, so he was blamed. At times during Bale's first 2 seasons here, the team was way, way better when playing 4-4-2 without him, because the formation lines were much better connected.

Over all he was hated more by the people who attend Bernabéu than Real Madrid fans in general. This happens very often... the people that go to Bernabéu value work rate and team work very highly. Unless you are scoring in almost every game or doing something crazy performances on a consistent basis, they will not appreciate you if you're not working your ass off. The people that go to the stadium have seen some of the worlds best players play there every two weekends for 5, 10, 15, 20, etc years... they won't be impressed if you can dribble past 3 opponents, make beautiful crosses, etc because this is Real Madrid and that is the minimum they expect. Unless you can do something really outstanding, maximum effort is what they'll demand.

There are many examples of this... Ronaldo was liked despite the fact he was a seemingly lazy fat guy who would just walk around the attacking line for 80 minutes, because he during the other 10 he would get the ball, out run everyone, dribble the keeper and score. But as soon as he was injured and lost his speed, the team was left with a seemingly lazy fat guy who could rarely outrun defenders anymore. No work rate and no extraordinary performances -> the guy got booed. Then you have guys like Higuaín who aren't the most gifted strikers, but always run their asses off, and so become Bernabéu favorites even when their performance drops.

It's hard to notice this on tv, but when you go to Bernabéu you realize that one of the things the crowd applauds the most is attacking players dropping down to help in defense, and midfielders running up to pressure the enemy lines. It's tricky because these things aren't always the players fault... you need a manager that gives the players a lot of freedom and doesn't confine them to small spaces. Guys like Khedira, who were mostly used to defend a small portion of the field, will always seem less hardworking than guys like Lass who had to multiply themselves in order to cover all the spaces the offensive players left behind.
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Jul 23 2016 09:29am
I just want you to buy Pogba and sell us Kroos :evil:
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Jul 23 2016 11:44am
Quote (Edgard @ 23 Jul 2016 16:29)
I just want you to buy Pogba and sell us Kroos :evil:



If Pogba is 120 M then Kroos certainly is 500+M
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Jul 23 2016 12:10pm
Quote (Andi @ Jul 23 2016 01:44pm)
If Pogba is 120 M then Kroos certainly is 500+M


500-480M, so kroos is actually worth 20m
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Jul 23 2016 12:50pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Jul 23 2016 03:39am)
We don't have the urge to buy Pogba, that I agree with, but we also have to consider that we won't be able to sign during the next two transfer windows if the FIFA bann isn't lifted (it almost certainly won't be). The way things are, signing someone for almost any position would make some sense.

And Pogba isn't shit defensively... he has averaged 7 balls recovered per game last season, and that definitely isn't bad considering his role in the team. I do agree that he's a waste as a DM though.

But I wouldn't really be interested in replacing Casemiro... he has been one of our best players this season. Pretty much the reason why we went from being garbage to suddenly winning the CL and almost winning a lost Liga title. He brought so much balance to the team... our best player in the CL final for sure.

Adding another DM for depth wouldn't hurt though... although I don't dislike the idea of simply having Pepe play as DM when necessary.




I agree Casemiro has been fantastic, but I remember reading somehwere (and it made sense to me) that the reason why Casemiro has been so good this season is because we went from NODM to ADM. Doesn't matter if we have Kroos, Modric, Isco, James, Bale etc in our midfield... they're all attacking players and placing Kroos/Modric as DM just didn't work out...


To rephrase... Any DM would have shone in the Real Madrid squad... Be it Kante, Veratti, Gustavo, Toure, Busquets, De Rossi, Matic, Alonso etc.. A decent DM has been the difference between 15 points behind barca and quater final UCL exit and 1 point behind barca and UCL win...

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Jul 23 2016 12:54pm
Quote (Andi @ Jul 23 2016 07:44pm)
If Pogba is 120 M then Kroos certainly is 500+M


Agreed lol. Would honestly take Kroos over Pogba any day. Same with Modric.

Pogba is young and most likely going to improve... but as of today I think both RM's CMs are better than him.
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Jul 23 2016 02:20pm
Quote (Crestron @ 23 Jul 2016 20:50)
I agree Casemiro has been fantastic, but I remember reading somehwere (and it made sense to me) that the reason why Casemiro has been so good this season is because we went from NODM to ADM. Doesn't matter if we have Kroos, Modric, Isco, James, Bale etc in our midfield... they're all attacking players and placing Kroos/Modric as DM just didn't work out...


To rephrase... Any DM would have shone in the Real Madrid squad... Be it Kante, Veratti, Gustavo, Toure, Busquets, De Rossi, Matic, Alonso etc.. A decent DM has been the difference between 15 points behind barca and quater final UCL exit and 1 point behind barca and UCL win...


Obviously, any DM would have improved Madrid. But that doesn't take away that Casemiro has been absolutely fantastic in almost every game he has played, and our best player in the CL final. There is no reason at all to want to replace him. Granted that there are better DMs out there, but there's no reason to change what's already working well. There are only like 3 DMs out there that would be a safe bet in regards to improving the team, but they're impossible or overpriced transfers that aren't worth considering.
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Jul 23 2016 02:59pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 23 Jul 2016 22:20)
Obviously, any DM would have improved Madrid. But that doesn't take away that Casemiro has been absolutely fantastic in almost every game he has played, and our best player in the CL final. There is no reason at all to want to replace him. Granted that there are better DMs out there, but there's no reason to change what's already working well. There are only like 3 DMs out there that would be a safe bet in regards to improving the team, but they're impossible or overpriced transfers that aren't worth considering.



Who? Beside Verratti of course.
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Jul 23 2016 03:11pm
Quote (Jayz0r_Yo @ Jul 23 2016 04:59pm)
Who? Beside Verratti of course.


There are quite a few who are better Dm than casemiro. Like a lot lol
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