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Oct 5 2014 04:46pm
Quote (B4al @ Oct 5 2014 11:14am)
with di maria and messi i completely agree.

Both had decent seasons with teams and brilliantly led argentina to finals.

Penaldo i would give him nothing simply because he was rude enough to take a spot on the portugal team when injured instead of thinking teamwise and get on bench with him to come on as a last half hour sub to change the game.

He was completely pathetic for portugal.

Messi was lazy, but scored almost every game and single handedly took them out of the group stages.

Robben ? Joke, right ? Injured + inconsistent. Not his year by far. guess you ba yern fan or smth.

at the moment i think di maria will get it. I favor him aswell, started to actually like the rat a bit :lol:  Messi can change the odds any time. Penaldo can score 500 won't get it.


In no way shape or form should Messi receive any honor, whatsoever. I personally felt like Messi was subpar in teh worldcup. I also feel like he is on a fast decline at club level as well. It doesnt matter how you score your goals. Tap-ins, Penos, Free-Kicks, Brilliant strikes from 30 out, etc. They all fucking count. Having the knowledge and the awareness to make a run to get a tap in, is still as difficult as beating a player and scoring. It is a TEAM game. The Ballon D'or will be between Di Maria and Ronnie, with Robben on the outside of it. I truly feel as if Messi should not even be within the top 3.

With that being said, Robben was the best player in the World Cup finals. I would have liked to see how Robben would have played in that game vs Argentina, had he not had the flu. Here is some logic from FIFA that I am still confused about. Messi wins player of the tournament, but doesnt crack the Best 11 sheet. :rolleyes:



As for United, De Gea is spectacular. Defense still looks shaky. Offense needs to finish more of their thousand of chances in the game to put teams away and not give me heart attacks.
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Oct 5 2014 05:18pm
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In no way shape or form should Messi receive any honor, whatsoever. I personally felt like Messi was subpar in teh worldcup. I also feel like he is on a fast decline at club level as well. It doesnt matter how you score your goals. Tap-ins, Penos, Free-Kicks, Brilliant strikes from 30 out, etc. They all fucking count. Having the knowledge and the awareness to make a run to get a tap in, is still as difficult as beating a player and scoring. It is a TEAM game. The Ballon D'or will be between Di Maria and Ronnie, with Robben on the outside of it. I truly feel as if Messi should not even be within the top 3.

With that being said, Robben was the best player in the World Cup finals. I would have liked to see how Robben would have played in that game vs Argentina, had t he not had the flu. Here is some logic from FIFA that I am still confused about. Messi wins player of the tournament, but doesnt crack the Best 11 sheet. :rolleyes:



As for United, De Gea is spectacular. Defense still looks shaky. Offense needs to finish more of their thousand of chances in the game to put teams away and not give me heart attacks.


ronnie was invisible in wc and is invisible in all important games.
was invisible in all the classicos since his transfer except the tito season.
invisible in cl final.

you want to give him ballon d;or for 15 goals vs granada ?

He choked vs ludogorets ffs :lol:

he should have scored 100 vs them then whine same as last year "man i got 17 cl goals"

Yes, you do ? Important goals ? Zero. Madrid would have won those games with or without him.

The sad reality check.
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Oct 5 2014 05:21pm
Quote (B4al @ Oct 6 2014 01:18am)
ronnie was invisible in wc and is invisible in all important games.
was invisible in all the classicos since his transfer except the tito season.
invisible in cl final.

you want to give him ballon d;or for 15 goals vs granada ?

He choked vs ludogorets ffs :lol:

he should have scored 100 vs them then whine same as last year "man i got 17 cl goals"

Yes, you do ? Important goals ? Zero. Madrid would have won those games with or without him.

The sad reality check.


How many important goals did Messi score in the world cup? 0

Where was Messi against the Swiss? invisible. Belgium? Invisible

Netherlands? invisible.

Germany? Wait did he even play that game :lol:

He was one of the biggest flops of the WC. Rojo and Mascherano were by far the best players for Argentina.

Quote (Roped @ Oct 6 2014 12:46am)
In no way shape or form should Messi receive any honor, whatsoever.. The Ballon D'or will be between Di Maria and Ronnie, with Robben on the outside of it. I truly feel as if Messi should not even be within the top 3.





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Agreed 100%.

This post was edited by MGS4BestGameEverMade on Oct 5 2014 05:22pm
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Oct 5 2014 05:24pm
i forgot, bro. Led his team to a honorable 3-rd spot. :lol:

Choked 2 times vs barcelona and 2 times vs madrid.

But destroyed the likes of malaga, granada, etc.

Yes, yes, you know it.

Joke player.
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Oct 6 2014 03:51am
Quote (B4al @ Oct 5 2014 11:18pm)
ronnie was invisible in wc and is invisible in all important games.
was invisible in all the classicos since his transfer except the tito season.
invisible in cl final.

you want to give him ballon d;or for 15 goals vs granada ?

He choked vs ludogorets ffs :lol:

he should have scored 100 vs them then whine same as last year "man i got 17 cl goals"

Yes, you do ? Important goals ? Zero. Madrid would have won those games with or without him.

The sad reality check.



important goals zero? haha 2 agaisnt bayern 2 against juventus and all the others u're just an hater. u try to compare argentina with portugal. wheres aguero di maria mascherano etc on portugal? ... your statments are competely shit.
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Oct 6 2014 06:10am
Ballon d'or for Di Magia.
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Oct 6 2014 10:48am
Quote (B4al @ Oct 5 2014 06:18pm)
ronnie was invisible in wc and is invisible in all important games.
was invisible in all the classicos since his transfer except the tito season.
invisible in cl final.

you want to give him ballon d;or for 15 goals vs granada ?

He choked vs ludogorets ffs :lol:

he should have scored 100 vs them then whine same as last year "man i got 17 cl goals"

Yes, you do ? Important goals ? Zero. Madrid would have won those games with or without him.

The sad reality check.


There is no reality check in this. Messi did not have a good World Cup. The team was carried by the defense over performing and the offense getting lucky goals. In terms of season play, what did Messi do this past year? Nothing. Scored a bunch of goals against farmers and didnt win the ucl, yet Di Maria fueled Real Madrid and Ronaldo scored plenty of goals. It doesnt matter if Ronaldo missed 4,752 tap ins. He still had 17 champions league goals. Also, Di Maria had the most chances created for Real Madrid and seriously looked like a special spark in their team. Messi is a fantastic player, but this past year he was not his former self, with both Argentina and Barcelona. He had 4 goals and an assist. How many of those goals came against serious competition in the world cup? Oh, 0? He did not score outside of the group stages yet was elected player of the tournament? That doesnt make sense to me.


Here was the Team of the Tournament. Now you can either agree with me or not, but usually, the PLAYER of the tournament should be included in the TEAM of the tournament.
Neuer,
de vrij, Hummels, Silva, Rojo
Kroos, Oscar, Lahm, James,
Robben, Muller


WHERE THE FUCK IS MESSI? It is bull shit.
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Oct 6 2014 11:36am
Quote (B4al @ Oct 5 2014 04:14pm)
with di maria and messi i completely agree.

Both had decent seasons with teams and brilliantly led argentina to finals.

Penaldo i would give him nothing simply because he was rude enough to take a spot on the portugal team when injured instead of thinking teamwise and get on bench with him to come on as a last half hour sub to change the game.

He was completely pathetic for portugal.

Messi was lazy, but scored almost every game and single handedly took them out of the group stages.

Robben ? Joke, right ? Injured + inconsistent. Not his year by far. guess you ba yern fan or smth.

at the moment i think di maria will get it. I favor him aswell, started to actually like the rat a bit :lol:  Messi can change the odds any time. Penaldo can score 500 won't get it.


messi ? are you fucking stupid ?

He couldnt of possibly had a worse WC and had a very very poor season (wouldnt put him in top 5 la liga players)

It will be ronaldo if not di maria

then again messi has robbed awards previously so you never know
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Oct 6 2014 01:36pm
Quote (joaoboss @ 6 Oct 2014 11:51)
important goals zero? haha 2 agaisnt bayern 2 against juventus and all the others u're just an hater. u try to compare argentina with portugal. wheres aguero di maria mascherano etc on portugal? ... your statments are competely shit.


aguero had a shit wc.

penaldo was sh1t for portugal even when they had legends like figo, rui costa, deco, carvalho and shitloads of other good players.

Even now the portugal squad is decent.

Rolando, pepe, carvalho w, coentrao, veloso, moutinho, rui patricio are all decent players at the very least.

Any good coach would have got out of that group with this squad with or without penaldo.

Actually i rate all those players way over argentinian ones.

Still, flop flop flop.

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Oct 6 2014 03:10pm
Keane's new book is out in a couple of days, some of the interesting details have been published - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11144230/Roy-Keane-book-I-shouldnt-have-apologised-to-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html
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