Yeah, Brandt might be just a "We need a German-Signing"...
Lets see, iam confident that we will also buy an international star

I'm speaking about purely this season tho, I agree that the Bundesliga have become rather stale when it comes to the title.
I'm saying that the fight for european places and the relegation battles have always been far more entertaining for me.

Bayerns interest started 6 years ago. Doesnt matter what player we sign in the Bundesliga everyone is complaining.
But if Dortmund sign anybody then its "true love"...

Ofc we are not signing Goretzka because he is good (Real and Barcelona wanted to weaken Schalke too)


https://www.merkur.de/sport/amateur-fussball/landkreis-muenchen-stadt/gerland-will-bochumer-supertalent-bayern-holen-1566582.html
18.01.2012

„Goretzka hat das Niveau, bei Bayern München zu spielen. Jetzt hat er erst einmal einen längerfristigen Vertrag bei Schalke unterschrieben, aber wenn man so gut ist wie er, muss man während seiner Karriere auch mal bei den Bayern gespielt haben“, sagte Gerland der „Reviersport“.
29.06.2014

This post was edited by Herolinda on Jan 1 2018 04:50am

don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's not an understandable or even stupid move by bayern, i'm just saying they are doing their usual thing and sign whatever quality arises domestically, basically ruining the league that way.

i wouldn't even say it'll hurt them in the long run. the bundesliga was never gonna compete with the EPL financially so for really outstanding international players we were never gonna be more than 2nd or 3rd pick - and that's not just because of bayerns dominance. the financial and structural rules and restrictions our clubs have to deal with have them at a significant disadvantage compared to state and oil sponsored clubs in england and spain that can throw money at players we couldn't even dream of. but not just foreign ownership, the premier league was just faster and better at marketing their product internationally. sure, the language helps, but the simple truth is that they realised the enormous potential earlier which resulted in insane TV deals and revenue - even for mediocre clubs which allows them to mismanage and outright fail for years and still be able to buy every single decent player from clubs like dortmund and even juve - clubs that produced talent and held their own on the international stage for years...

so even IF a club magically rises to challenge bayern and create at least SOME excitement when it comes to the title race, that wouldn't change much all things considered. just looking at this from a german perspective the future looks grim to be honest, the gap between bayern and the rest is increasing not closing, and this signing obviously contributes to it... but hey, at least i get some enjoyment from seeing bayern "fans" getting defensive about it and rationalising every move without ever acknowledging the obvious downsides of this development...

just for the protocol, we are NOT signing "their" player

he is a free agent



yeah really getting defensive about our club doing great business
this is football and not socialism



nice attitude to give up on a season before it started

look at the 5 big leagues in europe and bayern is the worst 1st placed team when it comes to points, in italy we would be third right now
even without a dominance of bayern, there is no league in europe where you can afford to have 5 defeats before christmas (hi dortmund)

clubs would do well to look at their own performances, but "mimimimi bayern" is so much easier

without bayern the gap between the leagues would be even bigger, not to mention the performance of bayern as one of the most stable cl contenders gave us the chance to have 4 teams in the cl

players like lewa, hummels, boateng, coman and now goretzka (just to name a few) wouldnt even play in germany if it were not for bayern

being jealous instead of improving yourself seems to be a new trend in germany
people act as if bayern was born with the money and status the club has now

goretzka is our boy now and it does not change the league one bit

This post was edited by ampoo on Jan 1 2018 08:00am

denial is a powerful force...

yeah sure, the real problem here is that the rest of the league is too focused envying bayern rather than trying to improve and do their best each game. it's not that they constantly lose their best players while fighting for the 2nd spot and have to rebuild each year - if they just had more determination and a better workethic they could easily just keep their players.
some ppl's arrogance knows no limits...

but hey, bayern wasn't always rich so everything's fine. we don't do nuance or facts here, so we can just ignore that it has become significantly harder to establish yourself as a top club without a massive injection of money from the outside, as opposed to the time when bayern rose to the top. smart management, transfers, and youth training can only get you so far nowadays, but who cares about that if a lame excuse does the trick, right?

like i said, it's amusing to read the defensive rationalisations of so called bayern "fans", but that doesn't mean they even begin to make actual sense...

poor dortmund (to name one example) lost 2 players to bayern (meanwhile the league loses more top talent to england/spain than anything but ok), while they buy philipp, dahoud, toprak, schürrle, castro, sokratis, reus etc or in other words, the best players of other bundesliga teams
weakening them severely

but its only bad when its bayern, seriously just how pathetic are you

"management, transfers, and youth training can only get you so far nowadays"

feel free to tell us how bayern is any different, good management, decent transfers and youth training, that brought us players like müller and alaba
the latter could be much better though

always amusing to read the hate of a so called mainz fan, who can bring us a bayern in depth analysis during the game despite "his" team is playing at the same time
not to mention that he seems to be a dortmund "fan" as well

@ampoo Amen sir




Barcelona and Real wanted to sign Goretzka only to weaken Schalke, i mean they will most likely play CL nxt season

This post was edited by Herolinda on Jan 1 2018 11:02am

nah mate

we should not have signed free agents like lewa or (hopefully) goretzka or other players that want to leave their clubs, so they can go to england, making our international standing without a german cl contender even worse
its not bad enough already that dortmund cant beat fucking nikosia, not to mention teams like hertha (sry once my friend)

all of that to give the likes of mainz a better chance to win against bayern and to make guys like fenderp stop crying
sounds like a solid plan

denial is a powerful force and reading is hard...

yeah sure, the real problem here is that the rest of the league is too focused envying bayern rather than trying to improve and do their best each game. it's not that they constantly lose their best players while fighting for the 2nd spot and have to rebuild each year - if they just had more determination and a better workethic they could easily just keep their players.
some ppl's arrogance knows no limits...

but hey, bayern wasn't always rich so everything's fine. we don't do nuance or facts here, so we can just ignore that it has become significantly harder to establish yourself as a top club without a massive injection of money from the outside, as opposed to the time when bayern rose to the top. smart management, transfers, and youth training can only get you so far nowadays, but who cares about that if a lame excuse does the trick, right?

like i said, it's amusing to read the defensive rationalisations of so called bayern "fans" (just wondering, is ANY one of them actually from bayern or are they ALL just bandwagoners?), but that doesn't mean they even begin to make actual sense...