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Dec 2 2017 10:25am
victory B)

great game to watch, so many scenes
also thanks to hannover, they did quite well

i hope they will give us another replay of that offside scene, still wanna see that one

coman motm B)
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wow lewa really was 10cm offside
how about they provide a proper replay earlier, it sucks to see it five times without seeing anything

now psg :ph34r:

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Quote (fender @ 2 Dec 2017 16:38)
offside was quite close but clearly a -> correct decision
it's a red because he prevents a clear scoring opportunity. basic football rules really. -> wrong decision, "lucky"
and unsurprisingly a complete dodge on the ridiculous penalty decisions. -> two wrong decisions, "lucky"


on a sidenote let me fix your understanding of the rules again

for the penalty decision
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1712/Artikel/verwirrung-nach-zurueckgenommenem-foulelfmeter-gegen-hannover.html

"Schiedsrichter-Experte Peter Gagelmann erklärte später via Twitter, warum Winkmann in dieser Situation richtig entschied: "Wenn der Torwart den Ball hält, würde es eine Wiederholung geben, wenn verteidigende Spieler zu früh reinlaufen. Wenn der Ball ins Tor geht, zählt das Tor. Vorausgesetzt es liefen bei der Ausführung keine Angreifer mit in den Strafraum.""
former professional ref confirms what i said earlier, but you must know the rule better than he does, right?
both teams entered the box so the decision was correct
he also said the same thing about the second one, could have been repeated again since boateng was a bit early

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36047575
and like 5 seconds of research will reveal this

"Players who commit a foul to deny a goalscoring opportunity will no longer automatically be sent off, football's rule-making body has confirmed."
COULD have been a red, but the automatic red does not exist anymore

so before you let the bayern hate get the better of you, check the real facts next time :lol:

or to use your words
two correct decisions, "lucky"

This post was edited by ampoo on Dec 4 2017 06:00am
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what a surprise, another post full of strawmen and projections by someone who clearly doesn't understand the rules and now try to claim they were at least somewhat right. let me elaborate why this is complete bs:

on the second penalty THREE bayern players entered the forbidden area first (boateng, hummels, martinez) - before ANY hannover players did. yes, this might surprise someone who doesn't know the rules, but the semi-circle in front of the box is also taboo before the penalty taker makes contact with the ball, and one of the offenders (hummels) eventually clears the situation - so it's CLEARLY a wrong decision to let this stand, especially after repeating the first one (even though again bayern players entered the box FIRST) that was converted. this was so obviously a wrong decision that even bayern fanboys have to admit it "could have been repeated".

the "automatic ejection" rule is pure strawmanning - no one ever claimed it was a red because of this (former) "rule". what a pathetic attempt to save face. again, it is a red because ulreich is preventing a clear scoring opportunity on an empty net by hitting only the player and bringing him down with no chance of playing the ball - there is no "accidental" here, that's a red by any reasonable interpretation of the current rules. again, if even the most biased bayern fanboys have to admit it "could have been red" this clearly indicates it was the wrong decision.

projecting your lack of basic football knowledge on someone else and strawmanning hard in order to claim you're at least half-right makes the whole thing even more embarrassing...

This post was edited by fender on Dec 4 2017 08:32am
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oh look, its the "i cant accept other opinions" post again, strawman bla bla
i never claimed the second pen was 100% correct, if you could read, however it was within the boundaries that refs let stand on pretty much every pen
the first pen was just too much

"if even the most biased bayern fanboys have to admit..."

what kind of statement is that even :lol:
there is nothing to admit, you take your pathetic ad hominem to make an "argument"
facepalm

one more time, refs have officially received room for their interpretation
and in case you missed it while following or not following your own farmer team....the video ref has NOT taken action
therefore people who do know the rules better than you do my dear fender have decided otherwise

deal with it (ofc you cant)

its almost cute how get triggered into in-depth analysis by scenes that you shouldnt have seen live in detail

looks like hating on bayern is more entertaining than "your team"

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Quote (ampoo @ 4 Dec 2017 12:59)
"Schiedsrichter-Experte Peter Gagelmann erklärte später via Twitter, warum Winkmann in dieser Situation richtig entschied: "Wenn der Torwart den Ball hält, würde es eine Wiederholung geben, wenn verteidigende Spieler zu früh reinlaufen. Wenn der Ball ins Tor geht, zählt das Tor. Vorausgesetzt es liefen bei der Ausführung keine Angreifer mit in den Strafraum."

well ^^



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Quote (darki99 @ 4 Dec 2017 15:58)


how about you read the last part of the quote?
hannover players entered as well
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Seriously guys, stop it, why do you try so hard? If you can't get with each other, just don't talk, you're losing so much time, just to say the same over and over.
Why don't you just ignore each other? :wacko: Like most people do with Orian now
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picture clearly shows the three bayern players i mentioned earlier in the box already and not a single hannover player and hummels will clear this ball. couldn't get any clearer but i guess since it's bayern this is perfectly fine for some "experts"...
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Dec 4 2017 10:52am
Quote (fender @ 4 Dec 2017 17:08)
picture clearly shows the three bayern players i mentioned earlier in the box already and not a single hannover player and hummels will clear this ball. couldn't get any clearer but i guess since it's bayern this is perfectly fine for some "experts"...


just a pro level ref, his assistant, two video refs, the ref expert on sky and the former pro ref in the article
not even the guy who took the pen or their coach complained :lol:

but they are all strawmen and have no clue

Quote (DoWN_DeaTH @ 4 Dec 2017 16:57)
Seriously guys, stop it, why do you try so hard? If you can't get with each other, just don't talk, you're losing so much time, just to say the same over and over.
Why don't you just ignore each other? :wacko: Like most people do with Orian now


would love to, but you cant ignore this level of ignorance and obsession while pretending to be "reasonable"

oh and btw, looks like i will miss the first half tomorrow ffs

This post was edited by ampoo on Dec 4 2017 10:55am
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