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Jan 24 2016 10:33am
Quote (grahambo @ Jan 24 2016 09:30am)
Wenger is no longer a winner. If arsenal don't win the league this season it is inexcusable imo. City are weak united weak chelsea are battling relegation liverpool mid table etc. Do you think any other manager would have stayed on this long with that kind of squad and money and no titles in 12 or so years. Awful in the champions league, and has never won one. Your guys need a more modern manager.. stop being blinded by something that happened 15 years ago.


I disagree with this, although he doesn't win, keeping them in the competitions has built arsenal into a fantastic self-sustaining club.
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Jan 24 2016 10:34am
Quote (Edgard @ Jan 24 2016 11:33am)
I disagree with this, although he doesn't win, keeping them in the competitions has built arsenal into a fantastic self-sustaining club.


at the end of the year they look at trophies and titles... not self sustainable development.
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Jan 24 2016 10:35am
Quote (grahambo @ 24 Jan 2016 17:34)
at the end of the year they look at trophies and titles... not self sustainable development.


both is possible at arsenal, but for that they should start spending at least some money
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Jan 24 2016 10:38am
Quote (ampoo @ Jan 24 2016 11:35am)
both is possible at arsenal, but for that they should start spending at least some money


Wenger can and has spent money.. just not enough as chelsea ans city.. as you can see that kind of money spent well leads to success. Sanchez and ozil are examples of expensive signings, but only signing chech this year?
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Jan 24 2016 10:38am
Quote (ampoo @ Jan 24 2016 05:32pm)
so you have your main assister without your main scorer now xd


Both Campbell and Ramsey have been scoring lately, so thats not a problem. We are opting for counters now so Giroud woul dhave been usseles since he's good at slowing the play.

As for what Graham said, such a cheap excuses everytime we are losing, has nothing to do with todays game.
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Jan 24 2016 10:41am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Jan 24 2016 11:38am)
Both Campbell and Ramsey have been scoring lately, so thats not a problem. We are opting for counters now so Giroud woul dhave been usseles since he's good at slowing the play.

As for what Graham said, such a cheap excuses everytime we are losing, has nothing to do with todays game.


Doesn't have to do with just today.. go look at the table now and what it could have been if chances against bad teams weren't squandered. Arsenal could be 13 points ahead of everyone lol
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Jan 24 2016 10:41am
Quote (grahambo @ Jan 24 2016 05:41pm)
Doesn't have to do with just today.. go look at the table now and what it could have been if chances against bad teams weren't squandered. Arsenal could be 13 points ahead of everyone lol


And so could other teams. I rather wait a little longer but have the same manager instead of hoppingn about every season.
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Jan 24 2016 10:42am
Quote (grahambo @ Jan 24 2016 09:34am)
at the end of the year they look at trophies and titles... not self sustainable development.


Thing is, although the trophy case has been relatively empty except for the 2 FA cups, from the club's perspective, consistently being in the top 4, and always making out of the group stage in the CL creates amazing revenue.
Which, I agree, should be used to buy some more world class players. Arsenal would easily dominate England if they were willing to spend more.
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Jan 24 2016 10:45am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Jan 24 2016 11:41am)
And so could other teams. I rather wait a little longer but have the same manager instead of hoppingn about every season.


I totally understand that consistency and patience with a manager are important for long term success I'm not arguing that at all.. just where do you draw the line as to where you need to move on or you need to keep the same leadership even when it's stale.
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Jan 24 2016 10:47am
Quote (grahambo @ Jan 24 2016 05:45pm)
I totally understand that consistency and patience with a manager are important for long term success I'm not arguing that at all.. just where do you draw the line as to where you need to move on or you need to keep the same leadership even when it's stale.


There is absolutely no guarantee how things will go if there was a new manager, also AW has created Arsenal the way it is today, getting rid of him would be very disrespectful and the fans know that he wants the best for the team

The outsiders, aka you, don't. You see an old man who has "lost" it, while he still has it, keeps showing it every season but people refuse to see that.
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