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Sep 1 2014 10:16am
Quote (ampoo @ Sep 1 2014 05:12pm)
you shouldnt compare these two things, its completely different

a winger as striker is a totally valid option for attacking play, while experiments in defense are unbecoming


Schurle as Chelsea's striker last season <3
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Quote (ampoo @ Sep 1 2014 05:10pm)
both young and unproven
blind not really a cb for me even if he can play this position
you need a proven class center back, not a talent who had a good wc ^^

has rojo joined the team now? last i heard was that he was about to be on trial in argentina :lol:



pretty much, yeah


who's a good cb available on the deadline day? Unless some more miracles happen i doubt. This Rojo thing is really stretched to the limit.

Quote (Mr_Mill @ Sep 1 2014 05:11pm)
So because i point out something you have to bring in Arsenal? :rofl:


I respect your point but id rather have Blind than Evans any day. Reason i picked out Arsenal because they kinda have the same problem, just in different positions obv.

Quote (aswethegods @ Sep 1 2014 05:12pm)
why are you forgetting phil jones?

looks a really solid young CB to me


Our best CB atm, he'll be the captain in the future for sure !

This post was edited by haro1 on Sep 1 2014 10:17am
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who's a good cb available on the deadline day? Unless some more miracles happen i doubt. This Rojo thing is really stretched to the limit.



I respect your point but id rather have Blind than Evans any day. Reason i picked out Arsenal because they kinda have the same problem.



Our best CB atm, he'll be the captain in the future for sure !


You can't compare a RW-> ST and a CM-> CB.
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Quote (Mr_Mill @ Sep 1 2014 05:17pm)
You can't compare a RW-> ST and a CM-> CB.


He was originally a LB, no? Has good defensive abilities, look at Mascherano for example.
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Quote (Mr_Mill @ 1 Sep 2014 18:07)
It's stupid to buy someone and not play him in his natural position.

If united is going to rely on a fullback to be the main central role next to a weak Rojo... :rofl:


On the contrary, its stupid to say a player should be played only in the position he was tested in.

Mascherano is a good example for argentina. Arg captain. Liverpool captain. Proven solid midfielder, came to barcelona and became world class cb for 2 years.

Eto`o, barcelona`s no9 for years, proven striker, cl winner, came to inter to be played a (defensive at times) winger. Won cl.

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On the contrary, its stupid to say a player should be played only in the position he was tested in.

Mascherano is a good example for argentina. Arg captain. Liverpool captain. Proven solid midfielder, came to barcelona and became world class cb for 2 years.

Eto`o, barcelona`s no9 for years, proven striker, cl winner, came to inter to be played a (defensive at times) winger. Won cl.


wat

Gerrard?
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Quote (B4al @ Sep 1 2014 05:19pm)
On the contrary, its stupid to say a player should be played only in the position he was tested in.

Mascherano is a good example for argentina. Arg captain. Liverpool captain. Proven solid midfielder, came to barcelona and became world class cb for 2 years.

Eto`o, barcelona`s no9 for years, proven striker, cl winner, came to inter to be played a (defensive at times) winger. Won cl.


Look at the defenders Barcelona had at the time he was converted.
Meanwhile United have no older players to help a player convert to his position. If Vidic or Ferdinand had stayed I could have seen this work
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He was originally a LB, no? Has good defensive abilities, look at Mascherano for example.


His main position is defensive midfield, played LB/LWB for national team most of the time
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Sep 1 2014 10:24am
Quote (haro1 @ Sep 1 2014 04:16pm)
who's a good cb available on the deadline day? Unless some more miracles happen i doubt. This Rojo thing is really stretched to the limit.

I respect your point but id rather have Blind than Evans any day. Reason i picked out Arsenal because they kinda have the same problem, just in different positions obv.

Our best CB atm, he'll be the captain in the future for sure !


its almost impossible to get a good one today, thats what i am talking about
all top clubs know that good center backs are hard to find and invest in them early+give them good contracts

united totally missed to invest early enough at the right position
instead there are panic signings for the offense.....

a proper def mid is also missing to sweep in front of the defence and get the ball forward
maybe thats even worse than the missing defense now that i think of it

was pretty obvious in the games i watched as well
players like fletcher or carrick (injured atm?) are past it
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Quote (Mr_Mill @ Sep 1 2014 05:21pm)
His main position is defensive midfield, played LB/LWB for national team most of the time


I believe he first played as LB for Ajax, then later on converted as CDM
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