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Sep 17 2015 12:29pm
Quote (ampoo @ Sep 17 2015 07:28pm)
there is a middle ground, just look at bayern
we got great transfers for somewhat reasonable money

i dont like it, but we all have to deal with the fact that you need to spend 30mio€, if you want a guy that can make a 5 meter pass

if wenger can not do this he will buy no proven class player in the next 10 years......


He has done it with Sanchez and Özil tho, just can't expect one every single window with him...
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Sep 17 2015 12:36pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 17 Sep 2015 20:29)
He has done it with Sanchez and Özil tho, just can't expect one every single window with him...


now that you mention it, yep he did
especially sanchez was an amazing buy, but thats in the past now

every top club is a constant construction site, bayern had to learn that as well past season when we had barely a squad at times
you could say that we got costa one year too late xd

and wenger is like "mmmh no i still have arteta"--->loss to zagreb
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Sep 17 2015 12:40pm
Quote (ampoo @ Sep 17 2015 07:36pm)
now that you mention it, yep he did
especially sanchez was an amazing buy, but thats in the past now

every top club is a constant construction site, bayern had to learn that as well past season when we had barely a squad at times
you could say that we got costa one year too late xd

and wenger is like "mmmh no i still have arteta"--->loss to zagreb


Arteta is suffering from the captains curse, every captain we have ends up being really shocking, has injuries or gets sold.
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Sep 17 2015 12:48pm
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Arteta is suffering from the captains curse, every captain we have ends up being really shocking, has injuries or gets sold.


Arteta has always been at best an average player, no where near arsenal quality

Dont use this "captains curse" crap
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Sep 17 2015 12:51pm
Quote (aswethegods @ Sep 17 2015 07:48pm)
Arteta has always been at best an average player, no where near arsenal quality

Dont use this "captains curse" crap


You don't seem to recall the 2011 -2012 season where we didn't win a single game without him? He had a vital role for us. Ofcourse he's not good enough anymore but he WAS ussefull to us
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Sep 17 2015 12:53pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Sep 17 2015 06:51pm)
You don't seem to recall the 2011 -2012 season where we didn't win a single game without him? He had a vital role for us. Ofcourse he's not good enough anymore but he WAS ussefull to us


useful is not the same thing as good

hes not even 10% of the player fabregas was
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Sep 17 2015 12:56pm
Quote (aswethegods @ Sep 17 2015 07:53pm)
useful is not the same thing as good

hes not even 10% of the player fabregas was


So you'd rather have a player that is good but doesn't guarantee wins instead of a "useful" player who makes sure when he plays you get results?

Very harsh on Arteta, he has proved himself to be a great player in his first two seasons even taking a cut in wages and he is fine with being a bench player now.
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Sep 17 2015 01:02pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Sep 17 2015 06:56pm)
So you'd rather have a player that is good but doesn't guarantee wins instead of a "useful" player who makes sure when he plays you get results?

Very harsh on Arteta, he has proved himself to be a great player in his first two seasons even taking a cut in wages and he is fine with being a bench player now.


Dont get me wrong hes a handy squad player but to have someone of his quality as the captain of the great arsenal is sickening ... someone like Ramsey (100xarteta) should be captain

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Sep 17 2015 01:21pm
Quote (aswethegods @ Sep 17 2015 08:02pm)
Dont get me wrong hes a handy squad player but to have someone of his quality as the captain of the great arsenal is sickening ... someone like Ramsey (100xarteta) should be captain


Being talented on the pitch =/= being a good captain. Ramsey would not be a good captain since he doesn't have those leading skills (yet). Arteta has the talent to lead a dressing room even if he's not playing. Him and Per are our best captains in the current squad.
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Sep 17 2015 01:24pm
Quote (Mr_Mill @ Sep 17 2015 07:21pm)
Being talented on the pitch =/= being a good captain. Ramsey would not be a good captain since he doesn't have those leading skills (yet). Arteta has the talent to lead a dressing room even if he's not playing. Him and Per are our best captains in the current squad.


I agree arsenal dont have many players who are captain material

However having a joke player like arteta as captain would not motivate the players imo and hasnt worked so far.

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