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Aug 3 2017 04:52pm
Quote (ampoo @ 3 Aug 2017 23:34)
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i remember that the bilbao president demanded 40mio and not a penny less, but we delivered the cash, nice and clean

my boy was worth every penny by the way B)

no, the player delivered the cash. ander herrera to united was sth. similar. a lot of transfers involved a buyout clause in spain were a "mess".

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z0k56/statement_from_athletic_club_javi_martinez/

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This was without question a complicated transfer," said Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge after Martínez signed a five-year deal. "


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In Spain, if a player activates a buy-out clause, he then has to lodge a significant percentage with the league as a tax payment. If he is given the money by the buying club, it counts as income, which attracts an additional levy.

Three representatives from a Spanish law firm that a year ago handled Javi Martinez’s move from Bilbao to Bayern Munich were pictured entering the La Liga offices, supposedly intent on finding a solution to the tax burden involved and triggering a deal. However, the player would have to deposit the tax payment and Herrera, unaware of any proposed offer, was not present.


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Manchester United found this out the hard way last season, as their move for Athletic Bilbao’s Ander Herrera was scuppered not due to “imposters”, as is often reported, but due to their unwillingness to try and hastily rush through a deal that involves a highly complicated system of regulations.

Successful navigation of this system can be seen in the way that Bayern Munich were able to secure the signature of Javi Martinez from Bilbao in 2012, which was a patient, nearly month-long approach to ensure that all the formalities were adhered to.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/buy-out-clauses-how-they-work-spanish-football/2
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Aug 3 2017 04:58pm
Quote (darki99 @ 4 Aug 2017 00:52)
no, the player delivered the cash. ander herrera to united was sth. similar. a lot of transfers involved a buyout clause in spain were a "mess".

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z0k56/statement_from_athletic_club_javi_martinez/

https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/buy-out-clauses-how-they-work-spanish-football/2


jesus christ, then what is the buy out system for when its so complicated?

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Aug 3 2017 05:10pm
I guess they got rid of the 75% in 2015, so psg will be paying him about 55 million a year pre tax at the highest rate of 45%

Long story short, Neymar will cost them 497 million over 5 years

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Aug 3 2017 05:26pm
Quote (ampoo @ 4 Aug 2017 00:58)
jesus christ, then what is the buy out system for when its so complicated?

iso zark


I think it's because La Liga needs to be sure that the deal is going through before accepting the money, so they need both the money and the player to confirm that this is going through. If the player can't make it, then he can make an authorization document to have a representative go to La Liga's offices to give the green light.

The reason they have to go to La Liga's offices to pay the amount is to prevent the selling club from keeping the player "kidnapped". They could potentially not anser the phone or whatever, stop any form of contact with the buying club and refuse to sell him. With the current system, with the players going to La Liga and paying the amount, they can freely move between clubs if the release clause is met, even if their club is trying to boycott the move.

This whole thing isn't needed if both clubs agree on the transfer though. Say Barça and PSG agreed on the fee that was exactly the same amount as the release clause, then it would just work like a normal transfer, without the need of going to La Liga's offices to pay a tax.
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Aug 3 2017 05:29pm
Quote (zarkadon @ 4 Aug 2017 01:26)
I think it's because La Liga needs to be sure that the deal is going through before accepting the money, so they need both the money and the player to confirm that this is going through. If the player can't make it, then he can make an authorization document to have a representative go to La Liga's offices to give the green light.

The reason they have to go to La Liga's offices to pay the amount is to prevent the selling club from keeping the player "kidnapped". They could potentially not anser the phone or whatever, stop any form of contact with the buying club and refuse to sell him. With the current system, with the players going to La Liga and paying the amount, they can freely move between clubs if the release clause is met, even if their club is trying to boycott the move.

This whole thing isn't needed if both clubs agree on the transfer though. Say Barça and PSG agreed on the fee that was exactly the same amount as the release clause, then it would just work like a normal transfer, without the need of going to La Liga's offices to pay a tax.


i see, thanks for clarifying
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Aug 3 2017 05:30pm
Loved the Neymar video in which he explained his decision.

Can't hate on the guy at all. Glad we had him for 4 years, sad to see him go, think the main fault lies with the management really.

About signing coutinho for 100mio, would rather not.

Inigo Martinez linked with us, hoped to see him come like 3-4 years ago. Would still want, but not for overprice.

Would rather not buy anyone than splash the cash on meh players.

No one in football could replace Neymar skill per se.

Curious how things end, at the moment unless Leon pulls a gg season, Madrid has the title already (regardless that on striker position they only have Kareem, who had an awful last year)

Would go for :

Reus (not for more than 60 mios tho)
Lemar (not for overprice)
Fabinho (not for overprice)
Inigo
Aurier

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Aug 3 2017 06:38pm
Quote (umade @ Aug 3 2017 02:46pm)
Yeah, the PSG that had the luckiest first leg of all time and got manhandled 6-1 the next one.
The PSG that haven't done shit in ages other than demolish french league thanks to Ibra.
I bet they won't win it next year either rofl, and won't reach semis in CL either.


You mean Barca got help like always on the 2nd leg? Delusional as fuck.
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Aug 3 2017 06:49pm
Quote (Slanman @ 4 Aug 2017 00:10)
I guess they got rid of the 75% in 2015, so psg will be paying him about 55 million a year pre tax at the highest rate of 45%

Long story short, Neymar will cost them 497 million over 5 years


no problem, shirt sales will totally make up for this...
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Aug 3 2017 08:26pm
Quote (fender @ Aug 3 2017 07:49pm)
no problem, shirt sales will totally make up for this...


:lol:

Pastore giving up the number 10 like he had a choice. I honestly thought he retired, it's a name I haven't heard in years.

I'm hoping Barcelona keeps away from Dybala. It's too soon and he's not a direct swap for Neymar, he would be wasted on the left.
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Aug 4 2017 08:12pm
Football fans, prepare!!!

The almighty neymar is goona take on...
...on...
...on...

Amiens SC.

What a challenge.
What a league.

Everybody laugh.
Roll on snare drum.
Curtains.
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