Quote (dro94 @ Jun 11 2015 12:09pm)

Describe the overall benefits that could possibly outweigh a hugely negative effect on the economy? 57% of our exports are to countries in the EU, and 55% of our imports are too. If there was even a slightly higher cost (in money, time or otherwise) in trade or through making trade agreements then it would have a massive impact, considering the scale of goods traded in the EU market.

France, Germany and other leading EU nations would never allow Britain a "pick and mix" approach to trade agreements, and we'd have no say in the new EU regulations that we would have to abide by through trading with EU countries.

Quote (dro94 @ Jun 11 2015 12:09pm)

Describe the overall benefits that could possibly outweigh a hugely negative effect on the economy? 57% of our exports are to countries in the EU, and 55% of our imports are too. If there was even a slightly higher cost (in money, time or otherwise) in trade or through making trade agreements then it would have a massive impact, considering the scale of goods traded in the EU market.

France, Germany and other leading EU nations would never allow Britain a "pick and mix" approach to trade agreements, and we'd have no say in the new EU regulations that we would have to abide by through trading with EU countries.

Quote (WNxIrvine @ 11 Jun 2015 14:08)

So you think they would just cut us off? Because they don't already trade outside of the EU themselves of course?

You're making it sound like leaving the EU would leave us stranded and destitute. If EU wouldn't trade with us, elsewhere would. Without having the added effect of needing to let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year.

Quote (ampoo @ Jun 11 2015 01:10pm)

in germany we hear that argument all the time
as if people wouldnt buy our wares without the eu anymore.....
ridiculous

Quote (ampoo @ Jun 11 2015 01:10pm)

in germany we hear that argument all the time
as if people wouldnt buy our wares without the eu anymore.....
ridiculous

Quote (WNxIrvine @ 11 Jun 2015 14:22)

Yet Norway and Switzerland are doing fine.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20448450

I assume Dro went to this report for his statistics since it's pretty much copy and pasted.

Britain would gain full control of its own borders - and be able to control, or stop, the flow of migrants from the EU, which accounted for 27% of total net migration in 2010.

2.3 million citizens of other EU countries were living in the UK in 2011, says the ONS.

That should be one of the main points to make. 2.3mill and that was in 2011.

Quote (WNxIrvine @ Jun 11 2015 01:08pm)

So you think they would just cut us off? Because they don't already trade outside of the EU themselves of course?

You're making it sound like leaving the EU would leave us stranded and destitute. If EU wouldn't trade with us, elsewhere would. Without having the added effect of needing to let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year.

Quote (WNxIrvine @ Jun 11 2015 01:22pm)

Yet Norway and Switzerland are doing fine.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20448450

I assume Dro went to this report for his statistics since it's pretty much copy and pasted.

Britain would gain full control of its own borders - and be able to control, or stop, the flow of migrants from the EU, which accounted for 27% of total net migration in 2010.

2.3 million citizens of other EU countries were living in the UK in 2011, says the ONS.

That should be one of the main points to make. 2.3mill and that was in 2011.

Quote (WNxIrvine @ Jun 11 2015 01:08pm)

So you think they would just cut us off? Because they don't already trade outside of the EU themselves of course?

You're making it sound like leaving the EU would leave us stranded and destitute. If EU wouldn't trade with us, elsewhere would. Without having the added effect of needing to let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year.