Quote (fender @ 1 Jun 2015 20:45)

ball hit the arm. arm was in front of his body which increased the blocking surface which is the reasoning for the ref imo.
i still think it wasn't one but you can see why he made that small mistake. but it's not like he gave them a ridiculously undeserved penalty or shot the freekick into the goal himself...

tl;dr: to say the ref won them the game for giving them a FREEkick is just absolutely ridiculous. end of story...

Quote (B4al @ 1 Jun 2015 20:48)

HSV was the better team the last 30 mins i watched. The freekick was deserved, defender used hands. Keeper was spectator, didn't even try.

Overall glad they remained in the first division, although i do hope they fire some of their players right away. For starters, rvdv

Quote (Mr_Mill @ 1 Jun 2015 21:00)

Well, I really think these relegation play offs shouldn't be played in a league like the bundesliga. They have enough teams to relegate 3 in a row like in the BPL.
Leagues like the belgian pro league need to have this since we don't have enough clubs who are capable of playing in the first division

Quote (Mr_Mill @ 1 Jun 2015 21:00)

Well, I really think these relegation play offs shouldn't be played in a league like the bundesliga. They have enough teams to relegate 3 in a row like in the BPL.
Leagues like the belgian pro league need to have this since we don't have enough clubs who are capable of playing in the first division

Quote (Andi @ Jun 1 2015 09:01pm)

$$$$$

Quote (ampoo @ Jun 1 2015 09:01pm)

saying for years that these games are unfair, but the dfb wants to make some money :lol:
3 should advance, 3 relegated
thats not hsv related, i was always against that shit

Quote (Mr_Mill @ 1 Jun 2015 21:02)

Is the money difference THAT big?

Quote (Andi @ Jun 1 2015 09:07pm)

Well they certainly had 15 m watchers today