If you had even the slightest idea of what Pep had been doing for Barcelona BEFORE he even became head-coach and then right after he was appointed, you would't type crap like this.
He replaced ~ half of the squad when he was promoted to Barcelona's senior team, including the "heart" of the previous squad in Deco/Ronaldinho. He regularly started a then 20/21-year old Messi and Pique (who had just come back from loan) as well...

If that is your definition of "coaching ready made teams", you're absolutely right of course.

This post was edited by aneas on Mar 18 2016 08:24am

Most interesting one gonna be psg-city

Real and Bayern with free tickets to the semis

Barca gonna beat Atlético aswell, they won like the last 5 games against them i think.

pretty much, yep. if only other chelsea fans were as reasonable as you...

Not sure, Atletico is hard to predit in tournaments imo

He regularly started 20 year old Messi and returning Pique after selling ~8 players from Rijkaard's previous squad, including the "heart" of Barcelona's team at that time, Deco & Ronaldinho, while also implementing a completely new style of play for the team. But yeah... that must be the new definition of a "ready made team".



- Thiago was bought at the age of 22, while never having been a regular starter for Barcelona before in La Liga let alone UCL (that's the only reason Bayern could ever steal him for those ridiculous 25 million). Complete player for sure.
- Bernat was signed at the age of 21 after one season as a regular starter for Valencia in La Liga, while he never set foot on the pitch for a UCL game before. Again, definition of complete player.
- Coman is currently 19 and had never been a regular starter for Juventus.
- Signing Douglas Costa (24 I think) was heavily criticized by many Bayern supporters and semi-official clowns like Beckenbauer or Breitner, since he was coming from a so called "farm league" and many of the critics didn't even know him really.

So much for your "facts"...



And there we go... in your opinion they got "destroyed by guardiolas bad decisions", when in fact they lost 1-0 away (which is nothing to brag about, but also not the end of the world) and they were on par with Real Madrid in the second game, until some of the players simply showed terrible marking behaviour and attitute, letting Ramos score twice within a few minutes with Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Alaba or even Müller watching like simple bystanders.

Where is Guardiola to blame there? What do you expect him to do? Come in to win the header vs. Ramos himself? Adjust his strategy so perfectly to Real's to the point where Real never even gets awarded a corner? That's simply ridiculous.

On that level of competition it's almost NEVER the general game plan and match tactic that leads to victory or failure, it's basically almost always the very small details that decide a game. Details like world-class players on Bayern's side ignoring / forgetting how to defend a cross for example.

Funny though how you manage to completely ignore Pep's subs and whatever else when it comes to the game vs. Juventus... in this case, it must have been the players winning DESPITE Pep of course... just because it fits your biased view on him. And of course. don't mention the terrible individual mistakes made by Alaba, Neuer, Benatia, Vidal, Xabi and others that even brought Juventus into this game.

This post was edited by aneas on Mar 18 2016 09:40am

indeed
barca will meet some trouble imo

their defense got exposed by Arsenal, if Welbeck could finish his dinner they would have caused Barca a lot of problems

yes it is.coaching teams who got no limit on spending money are kinda ready made teams just to give you an idea of your guardiola what squad he had when he started as headcoach 08/09

V. Valdés ,M. Cáceres ,Piqué ,Márquez, Puyol,Xavi,Gudjohnsen ,A. Iniesta,Eto'o ,Messi ,Bojan ,Pinto ,Henry ,Mali Keita ,Sylvinho ,Milito ,Dani Alves,Hleb ,Abidal ,Touré Yaya ,Jorquera ,Pedro ,Sergio B. ,V. Sánchez
Total spending: Decrease €88M

ye the squad looks pretty bad to me in times where 2-4 teams barely spent more than 50 mio a year....XD its not hard at all if you got no limits + the best players around you.

Again, you ignore simple facts just to make your opinion look closer to the truth.
Yes, they did have money... yes, they spent it. Just like Real, Bayern, Chelsea, Man Utd and all the other greater teams did as well.

But let's take a closer look:

Caceres, Alves, Pique, Keita, Hleb + Busquets were brougt in by Pep. Messi, Piquet and Busquets were only 20 years old (you could double-check that; it's how I remember it). You must simply assume they all work perfectly together and perfectly even on their own to come to the conclusion that this is a ready made team.
You might be right of course... but only if we assume that football players are non-human beings without flaws, personalities, a psyche or just some better and some worse days....

If it was as easy as you want to make it seem, why do managers all around the world fail to accomplish their goals even with unlimited money on a regular basis?

This post was edited by aneas on Mar 18 2016 10:06am

well guardiola will fail at bayern aswell as he wont win the championsleague.he came to bayern to win this trophy and not the bundesliga or the cup.in the end his mission failed.alltogether my argumentation is that he would never get a team winning the championsleague with low investitions as heynckes did,as ferguson did when he won the cl the first time.same for mourinho with porto or jurgen klopp winning 2x times the bundesliga + reaching the championsleague finals.guardiola is an ok coach but far away of the best ones

This post was edited by kroko89 on Mar 18 2016 10:11am