the only thing guardiola manged to do was to destroy the club.heynckes and hitzfeld are the godfathers of coaching compared to that brainless retard

nah lets stop there, our officials did not let him butcher the club
we will be fine when carlo takes over

how he dismatled the treble was a complete jpke indeed.....

So winning a double of both National Championship and Cup while making it to the semi-finals of the European Competition is now the definition of "dismantling"... sounds about right, yeah.

It'll work out like the time Heynckes took over... van Gaal did all the important work and managed to develop players to the point where they reached the next level and Heynckes - although still a great coach - was basically only there to earn the consequential success of what LvG had seeded.
Pep will leave - probably with another double won - after this season and he indeed has brought Bayern players to a whole new level of tactical awareness and capability. You sh*t on him though, while you will later praise Ancelotti for doing the same that Heynckes did... being in the right place at the right time.

Neither Ancelotti, nor Heynckes would have been able to do all the basic development work to bring players to the levels of skill that van Gaal and recently Guardiola did, yet you glorify them as the better coaches.

This post was edited by aneas on Mar 18 2016 06:25am

Hmm Barca Atletico. This might hurt them. Also I expect Ronaldo to set a world record this champions league season. Wolfsburg really should not be anywhere near that quarter final.

the only player who got better under pep is boateng

i dont know how long you are here, but i have always valued van gaals work at bayern, especially bringing our youth players in

without his possession football work pep would failed miserably

what remains of pep will be tactical experiments....that is the huge difference

it always backfired when we faced a strong team and we barely escaped humiliation for the third time in three cl years
its not about losing in semis or anything, its about how it happened with ridiculous coaching

under carlo we will finally be more flexible (just like with heynckes) and a more classic approach has always suited us better

You got my vote. I was saying this for ages.

They want carlo, the guy who was embarassed at home by juve while fielding arguably one of the best teams in europe. Guy outmatched by Simeone's Atletico on every way possible not only in the internal competition, but Champions League final. Outmatched + plain day robbery vs PSV the time he won CL with milan.

BvBs year for shur.

This post was edited by B4al on Mar 18 2016 06:56am

Where did you ever see Heynckes showing any kind of tactical flexibility? His greatest tactical achievement during his stint with Bayern was almost entirely copying Klopp's successful counter-attacking style (with certain adjustments regarding defensive stability and with better players in almost every single position) going into 2012/13, after Dortmund had humiliated Heynckes' Bayern game after game after game in 2011/12 (where Heynckes btw didn't show even the slighest sign of tactical flexibility/capability to find answers vs. them, even though Klopp's Dortmund never even tried to adjust their style and thus was very predictable). Other than that, he stuck to the same formation with basically the same concept/match plan and basically the same players (except ofc when Bayern used their financial advantage to improve their squad with trades like Gomez/Mandzukic or Gustavo/Martinez and especially Neuer) all the time. He/Bayern were also lucky enough to stay free of injuries for the largest part of his stint.

This post was edited by aneas on Mar 18 2016 07:29am

ofc LvG did a lot for bayern.guardiola didnt do anything than buying complete players and thats a fact.most overrated coach in the world.klopp for example is 10 stages better than guardiola and ye ofc the work of heynckes is pretty bad....he just won everything he could win with a 3x times weaker team as its now...ye hes really bad

yeah, because something like that never existed in football before right?^^
rofl, there was nothing copy sry bro

what we played that season was a great mixture, we could drop back+counter and dominate the game with possession at will back then
and by the way you wouldnt even talk about 2012 season, if that idiot robben had not missed 2 pens....



pep has by far the best squad bayern ever had + maybe the best squad depth in the world
heynckes worked with less and learned from mistakes.....but he was outsmarted like pep on a regular basis

This post was edited by ampoo on Mar 18 2016 07:48am

heynckes has proven many times that he was a good coach...for example when he coached leverkusen.götze for example is an excellent player who never really played under guardiola which once again shows that he got no clue,he sold kroos,dont even wanna mention this...he nearly sold müller lol but luckily the bayern bosses cancelled it.all together guardiola cant do anything than coaching ready made teams...to let play rafinha vs ronaldo,wtf?in the end they got destroyed 5-0 by guardiolas bad decisions,same thing one year later against barcelona where they got destroyed once again and vs juventus theyve been lucky that juve started the 2. half totally defensively

This post was edited by kroko89 on Mar 18 2016 08:01am