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#11
Jul 3 2018 05:02am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 3 Jul 2018 12:46)
I see, thanks.


I feel like I understand that he's staying, when he hears the media instead of you people.
I think if the media acted the same as you guys did, he would have backed down.


and thinking that way is exactly the problem
if the dfb guys were not living in their own universe they would know how much the people are done with this guy
there are too many apologists with no clue in the media (which is not only the case when it comes to football....)

now its our turn to punish this complacency, maybe empty stadiums, sales and tv ratings going down will send a message
the connection between fan and our team has become signifcantly worse already in the years before this tournament

will be interesting to see how squad, attendance and atmosphere will be for the next game in september.....i will certainly not watch it
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Jul 3 2018 05:09am
Quote (ampoo @ Jul 3 2018 12:02pm)
and thinking that way is exactly the problem
if the dfb guys were not living in their own universe they would know how much the people are done with this guy
there are too many apologists with no clue in the media (which is not only the case when it comes to football....)

now its our turn to punish this complacency, maybe empty stadiums, sales and tv ratings going down will send a message
the connection between fan and our team has become signifcantly worse already in the years before this tournament

will be interesting to see how squad, attendance and atmosphere will be for the next game in september.....i will certainly not watch it


Empty stadiums destroyed Arsenal last season, would really not recommend it since it divides fans even more.
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Jul 3 2018 05:15am
Quote (Mr_Mill @ 3 Jul 2018 13:09)
Empty stadiums destroyed Arsenal last season, would really not recommend it since it divides fans even more.


i wouldnt compare club football and the national team there
and i realise that it sucks, especially for the players, who give their best, but fans dont have many options to protest

since we i mentioned the players, quite a few of them are unhappy with the situation as well
just now i read a skysports article about how divided the team was, players angry about löw completely ignoring actual performance and much more

our boy sandro wagner got smashed for his reaction, when he retired after not making the team, but looking back now he did the right thing
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Jul 3 2018 05:23am
Quote (ampoo @ Jul 3 2018 01:15pm)
i wouldnt compare club football and the national team there
and i realise that it sucks, especially for the players, who give their best, but fans dont have many options to protest

since we i mentioned the players, quite a few of them are unhappy with the situation as well
just now i read a skysports article about how divided the team was, players angry about löw completely ignoring actual performance and much more

our boy sandro wagner got smashed for his reaction, when he retired after not making the team, but looking back now he did the right thing


when it comes to players, some of them are just as delusional as löw is
right know, from the 2014 wc winners only kroos and özil havn't announced yet if they are going to retire or not.

I just hope özil will finally see how finished he is and retires... because if not, i don't see löw cutting him
same goes for gomez

meanwhile khedira needs to be cut aswell, since he has stated he will not officially retire
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Jul 3 2018 05:26am
Quote (SubbroT @ 3 Jul 2018 13:23)
when it comes to players, some of them are just as delusional as löw is
right know, from the 2014 wc winners only kroos and özil havn't announced yet if they are going to retire or not.

I just hope özil will finally see how finished he is and retires... because if not, i don't see löw cutting him
same goes for gomez

meanwhile khedira needs to be cut aswell, since he has stated he will not officially retire


:lol:
true, the ability to reflect on their own actions seems to be missing for some people
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#16
Jul 3 2018 06:02am
Great manager, single handedly got Germany the World Cup in 2014, they hadn’t won it in 24 years.
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Jul 3 2018 06:36am
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Great manager, single handedly got Germany the World Cup in 2014, they hadn’t won it in 24 years.


good job, you triggered me :)

Our team didnt win BECAUSE of him, but instead they won DESPITE of him.

This post was edited by SubbroT on Jul 3 2018 06:37am
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#18
Jul 3 2018 12:52pm
I hate and cant believe it, too.
But maybe it is better to wait till Klopp, Tuchel or Nagelsmann are available imho..
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Jul 3 2018 01:58pm
Quote (Speckham23 @ 3 Jul 2018 20:52)
I hate and cant believe it, too.
But maybe it is better to wait till Klopp, Tuchel or Nagelsmann are available imho..


its going to be a long, long wait then....

lets sign kahn B)
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#20
Jul 3 2018 02:06pm
Klop doesn't strike me as national team manager tbh
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