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Mar 30 2017 03:18pm
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The whole premise upon which you're deciding the league rankings is flawed. Blundersliga has 1 strong team, so what if it's better than the top 6 prem sides if the top 6 prem sides smash any other blundersliga teams?

Lol Liga has 3 teams that are better than any premier league team, so I can see why it may be ranked higher, however the other teams are pretty poor (cept Sevilla). An average English team like Stoke would destroy 15/20 lol liga teams.


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Dude, Spurs got beaten by Gent :LOL:


yeah......
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Quote (ampoo @ Mar 30 2017 10:18pm)
yeah......


We can all find examples of one team losing to another team. Like Moyes' Utd smashing Bayer Neverlosen
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Mar 30 2017 03:22pm
Quote (dro94 @ Mar 30 2017 09:19pm)
We can all find examples of one team losing to another team. Like Moyes' Utd smashing Bayer Neverlosen


Like rostov slapping bayern ^_^
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Quote (dro94 @ 30 Mar 2017 22:19)
We can all find examples of one team losing to another team. Like Moyes' Utd smashing Bayer Neverlosen


absolutely, but prem mid table farmers are grossly overrated as well
english teams have been consistently rekt by farmers recently, like west ham and southampton :lol:

and even if it was true, well a team like stoke has several times the budget a low tier la liga team has
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Mar 30 2017 03:28pm
Quote (dro94 @ 30 Mar 2017 22:16)
The whole premise upon which you're deciding the league rankings is flawed. Blundersliga has 1 strong team, so what if it's better than the top 6 prem sides if the top 6 prem sides smash any other blundersliga teams?

Lol Liga has 3 teams that are better than any premier league team, so I can see why it may be ranked higher, however the other teams are pretty poor (cept Sevilla). An average English team like Stoke would destroy 15/20 lol liga teams.


I have always defended that the prem was better than La Liga for the reasons you give, but that just doesn't hold true anymore imo. The only problem in La Liga are the bottom 3.

Osasuna, Sporting and Granada are Championship level teams (which is why they are getting demolished). Leganés and Depor aren't great either, but they aren't worse than the bottom teams in England. The remaining 15 teams are fine and would avoid the drop in the prem.

The new tv deal that shares the money Barça and Madrid used to gobble up has helped balanced the league and the mid-low class teams have managed to step up over the last 2 years.
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Mar 30 2017 03:34pm
Quote (zarkadon @ Mar 30 2017 10:28pm)
I have always defended that the prem was better than La Liga for the reasons you give, but that just doesn't hold true anymore imo. The only problem in La Liga are the bottom 3.

Osasuna, Sporting and Granada are Championship level teams (which is why they are getting demolished). Leganés and Depor aren't great either, but they aren't worse than the bottom teams in England. The remaining 15 teams are fine and would avoid the drop in the prem.

The new tv deal that shares the money Barça and Madrid used to gobble up has helped balanced the league and the mid-low class teams have managed to step up over the last 2 years.


do you agree that blundersliga is 3rd, possibly 4th or 5th place?
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do you agree that blundersliga is 3rd, possibly 4th or 5th place?


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Mar 30 2017 04:12pm
It's always difficult to rank the leagues, because most leagues are really top heavy.
Look at Premier League. Since it became PL, United has 14 wins, Chelsea 5, Arsenal 3, City 2 and Leicester (toppest of keks last season) along with Blackburn 1 each.
If that ain't top heavy I don't know what is. The Blackburn one came in early 90s, and Arsenal last won more than 10 years ago. It's been United, City or Chelsea as of late, with the only weird exception being Leicester.
You can't really compare bottom 10 teams because they rarely stick around more than 2-3 years before being relegated. Sure, they come back in few years but it's same old story then.
Same goes for La Liga. Barcelona having won 13 of last 25 titles, Real 7, Atletico 2 and Valencia 2 (both very early back when they had a great team, now they suck). Oh, and Deportivo once because why the fuck should EPL only have the crazy one timer.
Serie A almost the same story, with Juventus having won like 13 of the last 25, I mean 10 of the last 25? I don't know. Milan has won 7, Inter with 5 and the Rome clubs one each, although a good 15 years ago. Sampdoria did win just before I started calculating (in like 91, I calculate from last 25 so since 92). So there's your very odd for Italy.
Bundesliga? I mean, lately it's Bayern and Bayern only, but this is the only league where, in the past 25, it's been really fun. Sure, Bayern has 14 of 25, but the other 9? Dortmund has 5, other titles belong to the likes of Stuttgart, Bremen, Wolfsburg and twice to motherfucking Kaiserslauten. You know, who won it in 98 while being one of the promoted teams.
As you see, historically most leagues are 4 team leagues but the team that differentiates most is actually Bundesliga because, sure, Bayern will be top 3 at least EVERY year (except for that one time they werent in 2007). But beyond that, it's anyones game. One year it might be Leipzig, next it might be Bremen.
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Mar 30 2017 04:42pm
i feel like serie a and ligue 1 is on the same boat they have 4-5 good teams and the rest is ass


but if u take the top 4-5 teams on ligue 1 vs serie a i think ligue 1 would win

thats why i ranked serie a on 5th obv juventus wrecks all the ligue 1 teams but the other teams not really highly doubt napoli or roma would be monaco or lyon atm


and unade i agree about bayernand the bundesliga in general but the current top 4 in the bundesliga is actually not bad specialy the top 3 with leipzig being a big suprise

dortmund with all the youngsters

i do believe these 3 teams would be alot for the teams in the bpl except for chelsea but in general BPL has alot of better teams in general so if u would take the full teams of each league i think bpl would com on top by a slight margin its really tight
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Mar 30 2017 04:57pm
Quote (umade @ 30 Mar 2017 23:12)
It's always difficult to rank the leagues, because most leagues are really top heavy.
Look at Premier League. Since it became PL, United has 14 wins, Chelsea 5, Arsenal 3, City 2 and Leicester (toppest of keks last season) along with Blackburn 1 each.
If that ain't top heavy I don't know what is. The Blackburn one came in early 90s, and Arsenal last won more than 10 years ago. It's been United, City or Chelsea as of late, with the only weird exception being Leicester.
You can't really compare bottom 10 teams because they rarely stick around more than 2-3 years before being relegated. Sure, they come back in few years but it's same old story then.
Same goes for La Liga. Barcelona having won 13 of last 25 titles, Real 7, Atletico 2 and Valencia 2 (both very early back when they had a great team, now they suck). Oh, and Deportivo once because why the fuck should EPL only have the crazy one timer.
Serie A almost the same story, with Juventus having won like 13 of the last 25, I mean 10 of the last 25? I don't know. Milan has won 7, Inter with 5 and the Rome clubs one each, although a good 15 years ago. Sampdoria did win just before I started calculating (in like 91, I calculate from last 25 so since 92). So there's your very odd for Italy.
Bundesliga? I mean, lately it's Bayern and Bayern only, but this is the only league where, in the past 25, it's been really fun. Sure, Bayern has 14 of 25, but the other 9? Dortmund has 5, other titles belong to the likes of Stuttgart, Bremen, Wolfsburg and twice to motherfucking Kaiserslauten. You know, who won it in 98 while being one of the promoted teams.
As you see, historically most leagues are 4 team leagues but the team that differentiates most is actually Bundesliga because, sure, Bayern will be top 3 at least EVERY year (except for that one time they werent in 2007). But beyond that, it's anyones game. One year it might be Leipzig, next it might be Bremen.


juve in italy is far superior than bayern is in our league
remember last season when they had a joke of start and still won the title comfortably, there is no way this would happen somewhere else

this season really shows how competitive bundesliga is, gladbach, leverkusen and schalke are not performing at their best and are immediately punished
except chelsea last year i dont remember the top tier teams dropping into the second half of the table

This post was edited by ampoo on Mar 30 2017 04:59pm
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