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Aug 7 2015 03:02pm
Quote (B4al @ Aug 7 2015 09:04pm)
Belgian so obviously biased.

Fachts : Cech won everything with chelki without having once in a 10 year career a fluke like the one posted in here by excellence.


eeeh, i'll just name you one. how about the ball that slipped through his hands during Euro 2008 vs. Turkey match that basically cost them the tournament?
i can name you a dozen more just from the last 10 years ;)

Eventhough Cech is far more experienced than Courtois, he is slightly below Courtois on every aspect of GoalKeeping in general. Cech peeked already, Courtois keeps on evolving.

When Courtois retires, his legacy will be written on the same page as Schmeichel, Zoff, Buffon, Yashin, etc...
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Aug 7 2015 03:07pm
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eeeh, i'll just name you one. how about the ball that slipped through his hands during Euro 2008 vs. Turkey match that basically cost them the tournament?
i can name you a dozen more just from the last 10 years ;)

Eventhough Cech is far more experienced than Courtois, he is slightly below Courtois on every aspect of GoalKeeping in general. Cech peeked already, Courtois keeps on evolving.

When Courtois retires, his legacy will be written on the same page as Schmeichel, Zoff, Buffon, Yashin, etc...


Anyone who doesn't think Cech should be there is deluded and mad.
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Aug 7 2015 03:10pm
Quote (CpTJenJen @ Aug 7 2015 10:07pm)
Anyone who doesn't think Cech should be there is deluded and mad.


Didn't said he wasn't up there,
Cech is included in the "etc..." part. i can't name them all you know :/
like Van den Sar, Casillias, Khan, soon Neuer too ...
list goes on

This post was edited by MorphX on Aug 7 2015 03:11pm
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Aug 7 2015 03:13pm
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Aug 7 2015 03:28pm
Quote (MorphX @ 7 Aug 2015 17:02)
eeeh, i'll just name you one. how about the ball that slipped through his hands during Euro 2008 vs. Turkey match that basically cost them the tournament?
i can name you a dozen more just from the last 10 years ;)

Eventhough Cech is far more experienced than Courtois, he is slightly below Courtois on every aspect of GoalKeeping in general. Cech peeked already, Courtois keeps on evolving.

When Courtois retires, his legacy will be written on the same page as Schmeichel, Zoff, Buffon, Yashin, etc...


Schmeichel has the treble and he dragged fucking Denmark, yes Denmark to the Euro title
Zoff WC winner/Euro winner + all his club titles
Buffon WC winner + all his club titles
Yashin redefined the position

I have no doubt Courtois will continue to progress but I dont see him entering this mighty company quite yet.
I'd also argue he had far stronger seasons at Atletico - he didn't have a bus protecting him there and really, really stood out even though he was what 20? just my opinion though
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Aug 7 2015 03:35pm
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Schmeichel has the treble and he dragged fucking Denmark, yes Denmark to the Euro title
Zoff WC winner/Euro winner + all his club titles
Buffon WC winner + all his club titles
Yashin redefined the position

I have no doubt Courtois will continue to progress but I dont see him entering this mighty company quite yet.
I'd also argue he had far stronger seasons at Atletico - he didn't have a bus protecting him there and really, really stood out even though he was what 20? just my opinion though


Titles with Chelsea and Atletico madrid + CL final isn't too bad aswell btw, and we don't know how far that Belgium will get aswell
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Aug 7 2015 03:38pm
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Schmeichel has the treble and he dragged fucking Denmark, yes Denmark to the Euro title
Zoff WC winner/Euro winner + all his club titles
Buffon WC winner + all his club titles
Yashin redefined the position

I have no doubt Courtois will continue to progress but I dont see him entering this mighty company quite yet.
I'd also argue he had far stronger seasons at Atletico - he didn't have a bus protecting him there and really, really stood out even though he was what 20? just my opinion though


Atletico is chelsea 2.0 imo.. They're parking the bus often and are playing horrible football everytime I watch them
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Aug 7 2015 04:20pm
Quote (DoWN_DeaTH @ 7 Aug 2015 23:38)
Atletico is chelsea 2.0 imo.. They're parking the bus often and are playing horrible football everytime I watch them


Atliteco is probably the underdog teh matches you've seen them. Chelsea should almost never be the underdog with that lineup.
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Aug 7 2015 04:35pm
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Aug 7 2015 04:42pm
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Schmeichel has the treble and he dragged fucking Denmark, yes Denmark to the Euro title
Zoff WC winner/Euro winner + all his club titles
Buffon WC winner + all his club titles
Yashin redefined the position

I have no doubt Courtois will continue to progress but I dont see him entering this mighty company quite yet.
I'd also argue he had far stronger seasons at Atletico - he didn't have a bus protecting him there and really, really stood out even though he was what 20? just my opinion though


Well, it would be pretty obvious if i mentioned Courtois is just 23 and he pretty much competes with older and more experienced goalies already and actually beats them skillwise, considering goalies actually peak after 27. So this guy is already, pretty much, better than peaking and peak'ed goalies and is himself not at his peak yet. Let's take the expected for granted (continuous evolving), and this guy gets much better in lets say 5 years.
And honestly, Belgium is producing very qualitative players for the last 5-7 years and the national team is getting better and better. Pretty much all the players play in european top teams now. It's just a matter of coaching. Once that part plays out, i see Belgium actually taking a trophy or two during Courtois' carreer.

If i recall correctly, Mourinho did let Cech go because (literally his words) he didn't wanted to ruin his excellent career by benching him for a huge prospect.

ooh, speaking of peaking. Neuer for example is peaking (age 29), started peaking in like 2012 (age 26) Give him 3-5 years peak-time and you'll see his name right beside Schmeichel.
So yeah, let's see what Courtois' peak will be like :)

and just a small addition, the year Denmark with Schmeichel won the Euro cup, Laudrup (Brian, not Micheal) played a huge roll as the playmaker for the team. I remember very clearly since that was basically my first major tournament i watched, i was 10 :).
Just googled for 1992 Danish National team, because i was not sure if Michael Laudrup played too that year, and found out that year Brian Laudrup even won Danish player of the year 1992 beating Schmeichel.
not taking away any form of credit from Schmeichel, but Laudrup + Schmeichel carried Denmark.
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