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Jan 23 2014 08:52pm
Quote (Benny21 @ Jan 23 2014 07:23pm)
"Talking to insiders close to raiders consistent sentiment I get is raiders sign vet qb draft qb 1st round next year"

https://twitter.com/26DrDeath/status/426506761927794688


I know he's not really anybody with any credibility, but he has been our superfan for a long time... wouldn't be surprised if he's friends with people in the org or with knowledge.


Only QB I'd be interested in is Bridgewater, but he's not gonna fall. I don't want a scrambling QB--we already have one of those. Honestly I want Matthews > Bridgewater > Bar/Clowney, unless some serious scouting info comes up on a different guard/tackle and their draft status jumps.
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Jan 23 2014 09:02pm
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Only QB I'd be interested in is Bridgewater, but he's not gonna fall.  I don't want a scrambling QB--we already have one of those.  Honestly I want Matthews > Bridgewater > Bar/Clowney, unless some serious scouting info comes up on a different guard/tackle and their draft status jumps.


My pref:

Matthews
Barr
Clowney
Manziel
Watkins


I wouldn't touch Bridgewater with a 10 foot pole.
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Jan 23 2014 10:27pm
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Only QB I'd be interested in is Bridgewater, but he's not gonna fall.  I don't want a scrambling QB--we already have one of those.  Honestly I want Matthews > Bridgewater > Bar/Clowney, unless some serious scouting info comes up on a different guard/tackle and their draft status jumps.


no to black qbs
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Jan 23 2014 10:53pm
Pick up Vick
Draft Watkins or clown

This post was edited by Paramore on Jan 23 2014 10:54pm
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Jan 23 2014 10:59pm
Quote (Paramore @ Jan 23 2014 08:53pm)
Pick up Vick
Draft Watkins or clown


i almost want to agree...

watkins or clown or barr plz sum
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Jan 23 2014 11:09pm
why everyone want them to draft theese projected D linetheres so much talent in F/a lot better to gamble on the Wr's on draft

m evans
Watkins
Boyd
need o make that happend for a shot at goodell letting us make the playoffs

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Jan 24 2014 01:45am
Quote (Benny21 @ Jan 23 2014 08:02pm)
My pref:

Matthews
Barr
Clowney
Manziel
Watkins


I wouldn't touch Bridgewater with a 10 foot pole.


I don't want a hybrid scrambling QB, we HAVE one of those. Give me a reliable pocket passer. Bridgewater isn't going to become a superstar, but we don't need a superstar for now. Get a stable QB, build a nice core of O-line and WRs around him, THEN look for the young gun. The vet can teach him some tricks so he doesn't have to start from day 1, get him integrated into the NFL, and then turn him loose.

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why everyone want them to draft theese projected D linetheres so much talent in F/a lot better to gamble on the Wr's on draft

m evans
Watkins
Boyd
need o make that happend for a shot at goodell letting us make the playoffs


None of the WRs in this draft are worth reaching for with our 1st, IMO. The D-line players look sick as fuck.
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Jan 24 2014 01:53am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jan 24 2014 02:45am)
I don't want a hybrid scrambling QB, we HAVE one of those.  Give me a reliable pocket passer.  Bridgewater isn't going to become a superstar, but we don't need a superstar for now.  Get a stable QB, build a nice core of O-line and WRs around him, THEN look for the young gun.  The vet can teach him some tricks so he doesn't have to start from day 1, get him integrated into the NFL, and then turn him loose.



None of the WRs in this draft are worth reaching for with our 1st, IMO.  The D-line players look sick as fuck.



Crazy talk Lee and evans Both studs
To many free agents in the Dline category and we have to spend money so no need waste all cap on 1 position need almot a full new squad

Dline players on f/a (we can afford any of them)
greg hardy
Michael johnson
jared allen
Michael bennet
anhony spence
justin tuck
ragi
josepsh starks

All Proven players no guessing work
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Jan 24 2014 11:57am
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Crazy talk Lee and evans Both studs
To many free agents in the Dline category and we have to spend money so no need waste all cap on 1 position need almot a full new squad

Dline players on f/a  (we can afford any of them)
  greg hardy
  Michael johnson
  jared allen
Michael bennet
anhony spence
justin tuck
ragi
josepsh starks

All Proven players no guessing work


Spencer, Allen, and Tuck are all too old. Even Bennett, at 28, is getting a bit old for what we'll be able to use--we won't be a contender for 2 years minimum...no point in going out and spending on FA's we'll never get to use to the fullest. Raji isn't going anywhere, and I doubt that Hardy and Johnson will be either--they're both on successful franchises that are likely willing to pay them to stay. If Johnson or Hardy do reach the FA market, I'd be willing to pay them.

I don't view DE as one of our biggest needs, but when you're in as dire straights as we are you draft the most talented players at your draft spot. If we can get the top OT, I'd take him. If we can get Bridgewater (I'm not sold on the scrambling QB thing, I'd rather have a pocket passer), I'd take him. After that, you start looking for the most skilled player in the draft at that point, and I don't think there's any denying that Barr and Clowney fit that bill. If the organization decides they won't want Barr/Clowney, I would support trading back to attempt to get a WR at a more reasonable spot and picking up another 2nd/3rd round pick.
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Jan 24 2014 03:23pm
id take bennett and thats it

and support

If the organization decides they won't want Barr/Clowney, I would support trading back to attempt to get a WR at a more reasonable spot and picking up another 2nd/3rd round pick.
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