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Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Nov 1 2016 08:53am)
I just don't really even understand the argument. Starks has always been somebody that has good vision but required good blocking if there wasn't a cutback lane. Lacy's very obviously better at running in traffic.


Casual fan doesn't have the eye or objectivity to notice things like that.
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Guy is still a legend.

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Guy is still a legend.

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Guy is still a legend.

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Nov 1 2016 12:03pm
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Nov 1 2016 09:53am)
I just don't really even understand the argument. Starks has always been somebody that has good vision but required good blocking if there wasn't a cutback lane. Lacy's very obviously better at running in traffic.


Better in traffic but starks had better vision
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Nov 1 2016 12:05pm
Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 1 2016 02:03pm)
Better in traffic but starks had better vision


Yes, that is part of what I said. Thanks for reading it back to me I guess.
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Nov 1 2016 12:09pm
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Yes, that is part of what I said. Thanks for reading it back to me I guess.


Backs with better vision are typically preferred. Guys like our fullback can run in traffic clearly. Guy without vision can't be playmakers plain and simple. I'm not saying Starks is great, I'm just saying lacy is not much better. Should've tried to get Forte or somebody with that better vision.
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Nov 1 2016 12:12pm
Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 1 2016 02:09pm)
Backs with better vision are typically preferred. Guys like our fullback can run in traffic clearly. Guy without vision can't be playmakers plain and simple. I'm not saying Starks is great, I'm just saying lacy is not much better. Should've tried to get Forte or somebody with that better vision.


The difference is that Starks' vision relies on the defense making mistakes. It's been a long time since he was able to make people miss on his own.

Not sure how you can claim that guys without vision can't be playmakers. Running over or through people is still making plays...
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The difference is that Starks' vision relies on the defense making mistakes. It's been a long time since he was able to make people miss on his own.

Not sure how you can claim that guys without vision can't be playmakers. Running over or through people is still making plays...


I guess I just mean big explosion plays rather than picking up the first down. But obviously starks was getting old. There's no doubt Lacy has looked better this season. I just think a Matt forte type runner would do better. Maybe I'm wrong and I certainly hope so and Lacy can continue (whenever he is back) the pace he started this season.
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Quote (tommyd323 @ Nov 1 2016 12:18pm)
I guess I just mean big explosion plays rather than picking up the first down. But obviously starks was getting old. There's no doubt Lacy has looked better this season. I just think a Matt forte type runner would do better. Maybe I'm wrong and I certainly hope so and Lacy can continue (whenever he is back) the pace he started this season.


West coast offense is all about moving the chains and making difficult matchups for the defense. The only argument i can see with Forte is the receiving threat and the resurgence of the screen game in GB. Hasnt been a thing since Ahman Green really.
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