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Jan 15 2014 04:40pm
I would love to see progress and a much better record next season, but have you guys seen the schedule? its going to be really tough to get to where we want to be starting out with next years opponents! We got a couple really tough divisions to play against! We got 6 playoff teams from this year on our schedule, 3 in our own division although i still cant think of SD as a playoff team lol, although you could put AZ in the chargers spot. Going to be a tough year to have a nice record so i hope EVERYTHING isnt judged on our W/L record and more focus on how tough we played every game and how close they are. I mean just looking at the schedule right now its easy to count 10+ losses right now. If we go 6-10 and our 10 losses are all lets say 7-10 pt games or less would you think of it different to them all being 20+ pt losses? If they are all close tough games I would be open to talking about keeping Allen 1 more year after. Also its not all the coaches faults, the players need to be in the right position every play and make the tackles and plays on the field. We need more talent to do that also so lets hope we have a good draft and get some good veteran players in FA this year. We also have some FA's that we need to bring back and will be key to our success. Just to name a few Jennings, Veldheer, Houston, Woodson, Walker, Sims, Jenkins and more

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http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/2014-Opponents-Determined/b785bbe9-d59a-4420-b67d-c4b499b2016e

link to 2014 schedule for those who havent seen it. a lot of hard games this up coming year. :wallbash:
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Quote (Intact @ Jan 15 2014 03:40pm)
I would love to see progress and a much better record next season, but have you guys seen the schedule? its going to be really tough to get to where we want to be starting out with next years opponents! We got a couple really tough divisions to play against! We got 6 playoff teams from this year on our schedule, 3 in our own division although i still cant think of SD as a playoff team lol, although you could put AZ in the chargers spot. Going to be a tough year to have a nice record so i hope EVERYTHING isnt judged on our W/L record and more focus on how tough we played every game and how close they are. I mean just looking at the schedule right now its easy to count 10+ losses right now. If we go 6-10 and our 10 losses are all lets say 7-10 pt games or less would you think of it different to them all being 20+ pt losses? If they are all close tough games I would be open to talking about keeping Allen 1 more year after. Also its not all the coaches faults, the players need to be in the right position every play and make the tackles and plays on the field. We need more talent to do that also so lets hope we have a good draft and get some good veteran players in FA this year. We also have some FA's that we need to bring back and will be key to our success. Just to name a few Jennings, Veldheer, Houston, Woodson, Walker, Sims, Jenkins and more


Quote (Intact @ Jan 15 2014 03:51pm)
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/2014-Opponents-Determined/b785bbe9-d59a-4420-b67d-c4b499b2016e

link to 2014 schedule for those who havent seen it. a lot of hard games this up coming year.  :wallbash:


Schedule is part of the reason I've been speaking out against having a "win this many games or fire" mentality. Chiefs, Chargers, Donkeys, Pats, 49ers, Cards, Seahawks...that being said, if we spend another season getting blown out it's time for a new QB, new HC, and a new approach.

You are right though, we have some VERY important FAs to resign. Jennings tops the list, with Veldheer a close second. Gotta find some way of developing these two QBs we have, and that starts with offensive stability. If these QBs are a bust, we basically enter team building from square one again...which means another 3-5 years of losing.
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Jan 15 2014 05:51pm
Neither McGloin or Pryor are the answer. I can't believe anyone would think they are after watching games this season. Once people got film on McGloin, he was awful. His hot start was a flash in the pan. Pryor is too panicky to be a quarterback. He scrambles into sacks and scrambles out of open receivers and ruins routs.

I'd like to draft a new quarterback.
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Jan 15 2014 07:23pm
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Neither McGloin or Pryor are the answer. I can't believe anyone would think they are after watching games this season. Once people got film on McGloin, he was awful. His hot start was a flash in the pan. Pryor is too panicky to be a quarterback. He scrambles into sacks and scrambles out of open receivers and ruins routs.

I'd like to draft a new quarterback.


I think at least Pryor deserves a second look. He was really on fire before his concussion...his athleticism and the amount of growth I've seen out of him merit him a second chance.
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I think at least Pryor deserves a second look.  He was really on fire before his concussion...his athleticism and the amount of growth I've seen out of him merit him a second chance.


i agree. im not sold on mcgloin but i do think pryor could use a little more experience under his belt before i say look at new qb options. maybe another year and lets see what he does. also get him some blockers and pocket time. give the guy a chance to not have to scramble so much and actually be a qb

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Quote (OmegaRed07 @ Jan 16 2014 07:49am)
i agree. im not sold on mcgloin but i do think pryor could use a little more experience under his belt before i say look at new qb options. maybe another year and lets see what he does. also get him some blockers and pocket time. give the guy a chance to not have to scramble so much and actually be a qb


This is what makes it hard to evaluate these QBs...no O-line to speak of, and no really good WRs. We have 3 WRs with good hands, and I'm excited about Rivera as a TE, but we're lacking a true slot WR...someone that has speed and can make big plays once he has the ball. I'd love to take an athletic prospect with a 4th+ round pick and develop them into a spot-duty WR.
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Jan 16 2014 05:31pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jan 15 2014 03:17pm)
Schedule is part of the reason I've been speaking out against having a "win this many games or fire" mentality.  Chiefs, Chargers, Donkeys, Pats, 49ers, Cards, Seahawks...that being said, if we spend another season getting blown out it's time for a new QB, new HC, and a new approach.

You are right though, we have some VERY important FAs to resign.  Jennings tops the list, with Veldheer a close second.  Gotta find some way of developing these two QBs we have, and that starts with offensive stability.  If these QBs are a bust, we basically enter team building from square one again...which means another 3-5 years of losing.


yea it will be hard to judge the season strictly on wins and losses with this schedule, and to decide a mans job because of W/L is not entirely fare either

as far as our QB situation, im gona have to side with DA on this and say i dont think the QB of the future is on the team at this time. but then again idk what else to do about it, not sure if i wana use our 1st rd pick on a QB and there isnt too many good FA's either..tough choice

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yea it will be hard to judge the season strictly on wins and losses with this schedule, and to decide a mans job because of W/L is not entirely fare either

as far as our QB situation, im gona have to side with DA on this and say i dont think the QB of the future is on the team at this time. but then again idk what else to do about it, not sure if i wana use our 1st rd pick on a QB and there isnt too many good FA's either..tough choice


I think we should draft one next year. I made a rather long argument against drafting another QB, but the crux of the issue is this: without an O-line and/or WRs, it is impossible to evaluate or groom a young QB. We need to improve our line, THEN draft a QB. There's a lot of hype over Bridgewater, and I think we could do worse than drafting him. But I just don't think a QB is the right move right now. Maybe get A.J. in the second round or something.
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Jan 16 2014 08:26pm
iso Clowney, Barr, or Atkins
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