That's why they said it would be up to the doctors on if he should play or not.

I personally would like to see him get IR'd, get the surgery and be fully ready to roll come next season. But there's no guarantee that he'll still be the QB next season. Like I said, Gene could still get fired because he signed Henne to be the back up as well. If his hand picked backup turns out to be even worse then the 23 year old 2nd year QB, that all falls on Gene.

Gene shouldn't be fired, because the Offensive coaching staff is still in their 1st year, after bringing in a brand new Offense and Scheme. If Gene goes, then so should the HC he brought in, because I don't see a new GM wanting to come here without being able to pick his own HC. But who knows what Khan will do. He's the owner so he can obviously do whatever he wants. He made it plain as day from day 1, that he expects wins and a winning team. 1-5 is not winning so who knows what's going through his head. I feel Gene should get at least another year and so should the Coaching staff, but I'm also not making the decisions

I've never understood the mentality of owners firing guys after one season. One year is nowhere near enough time to build a team up. I believe in the three year system - understand that the team probably won't make a huge turn around when you bring in a new staff and after three years, if you've not seen sizeable improvement, then you start chopping heads. Unfortunately for coaches though, everybody still believes in "What have you done for me lately?"

Exactly. I don't think Mularkey would go anywhere, due to it being only his 1st year. However, this is currently Gene Smiths 4th year as GM. 4 Years is plenty of time to bring in talent and help turn a team around. But he also inherited a team that was very void of talent when he took over. I could see him being let go seeing as this is his 4th year and the team looks to have gotten worse. Granted we've been hit with a crazy amount of injuries over the past couple years, but every team has injuries. I just don't think you can fire a GM without completely cleaning house. It would be the same situation that happened when Gene took over as GM. Del Rio was the HC at the time and we all seen how that turned out. If you fire the GM, at the very least, the HC has to go with him.

I was gonna say, I thought the past two years were basically a wash for you guys with injuries. I don't know where you put blame for Gene with that many guys on IR. It certainly doesn't help his case that teams are winning the Super Bowl with heavy IR lists, but at the same time, I don't think it's fair to blame somebody that's trying to build starting talent while looking at what guys who have been building backups for years have done in similar situations. (I'd be lying if I said I know enough of Khan to have any idea what he'll do though.)

You can't blame the injuries on Gene one bit (even though some idiot Jags fans seem to think it's his fault). Injuries just happen, it's just been our bad luck with the amount and who have gotten the injuries. No part of that is Genes fault. One gripe you could use against him, is he does sometime IR guys a little too soon, when they could be put on the PUP list and come back later in the season (Jennings last year and Will Rackley this season are the first 2 blatant ones that come to mind). That's pretty minor though.

I personally want Gene to stay for at least another year as well as the coaches for obvious reasons. But there's a lot of fans who want Gene gone and Mularkey gone already. With pressure to sell tickets year in and year out, you don't know if Khan will fold to that pressure or not. The problem with that is, most Jag fans have zero patients and expect instant results. A lot of them want everything completely blown up and for us to draft Geno Smith lol. Whats going to happen if that happens and him and the franchise struggles for 2 years like it most likely would if it got blown up. They are then going to want to draft a brand new QB and want it all blown up again. It's sad to say but this franchise really does have some idiot ass fans. Some of them really think we should draft a QB in the 1st round every single year until we find a true franchise QB :facepalm:

Yeah, I didn't mean specifically blame him for the injuries, meant I don't know how much you can blame any GM or coach for the results of a season when you're heaving on injuries. Obviously it would be ridiculous to try and blame any staff member for somebody getting hurt on the field. (Well, except that Jets strength coach who tripped the Dolphins player, that was totally his fault.)

Every struggling team has those fans. I don't know where the widespread win now mentality came from, but the majority of NFL fans definitely prefer to win one year than to build properly and compete for a decade. I thought it had been proven recently that you can't just expect to turn things around through one draft, and that you can't win through free agency. People need to breathe and understand that draft and develop is the best policy to winning for long periods.

Haven't seen much of Gabbert (I don't watch previous games of the Pack's next opponent until Saturday before the game, when I catch one or two), but he doesn't strike me as a bum. Looked a bit raw, but obviously he's still young enough to make huge strides. Not many elite QBs really take off before their fourth or fifth year anyway. I guess you can't preach patience to people who are spending big money on tickets though.

A lot of the win now mentality came from us being so spoiled in the early years of the franchise. The Franchise all but came out of the gate winning (besides the first season). So close to the Super Bowl, so quickly into the franchises existence. So people look back at that and see how we've been towards the bottom of the league now for so long, they don't understand how we could go from winning right out of the gate, to sucking for years and years. They are getting restless and want wins. Which is understandable, but it's got to be within reason.

Gabbert was very raw coming out of college. He honestly probably should have stayed in college for his senior season but didn't obviously. He definitely needed to sit for a couple years to watch and mature. He's still very young, he just turned 23 on Oct 15th. His 1st year hurt his development because he was thrown into a terrible situation that he never should have been in. He's still young enough to turn it around and has shown flashes of it this season. It really is a shame he got hurt last Sunday, because he was on pace to have the best game of his career so far. He was 8-12 for 110 yards and 1 TD about 3/4's of the way through the 1st quarter. One of those incomplete passes came after his injury as well.

The kicker of it all is, he got hurt on a play that never should of happened. It was an offsides by the Raiders in which 3 D-Linemen had a free rush towards the QB. All 3 of them jumped early and were unabated to the QB which means the play should have been blown dead. They threw the flags instantly but blew their whistles late. The O-Linemen just stood up because they knew it was an offsides and the play should have been dead. Gabbert just stood there because he knew it was offsides and should have been blown dead. As the D-Linemen kept running at him he then slide to the ground to give himself up. The refs still didn't do anything as fat ass Tommy Kelly then jumped on top of Gabbert and drove him into the ground. A play that never should have happened, gets our starting QB hurt and we get a joke ass 5 yards for it. It was pathetic.

so i see we are starting an undrafted rookie at SLB with daryl smith out

GG

It's better then Bosworth continuing to play and start in that spot. I had seen enough of him after like the 3rd game. Stanford has been a beast on special teams and has flashed in the very limited amount of plays hes had at LB. He has very good speed and always seems to be around the ball. I got no problems with letting the young guys get an increased amount of playing time. For all we know is, we got an UDFA rookie gem in Julian Stanford. The only way to find out is to let the dude go make some plays.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/24/offensive-line-rankings/



Sure does help Gabbert out.... :facepalm:

On a bright note though, Eugene Monroe is easily a top 5 LT.