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Aug 19 2022 11:04am
Quote (Prone @ Aug 19 2022 11:54am)
My position rankings as of now, not the finished product yet.

Iso criticism, things you like/hate, players way too low/way too high, you name it.

Based on 0.5 ppr
**=Contract year
~~=Top 6 oline
@@=Bottom 6 oline
Numbers near their names: (1) = easiest schedule average, (32) = hardest
The spaces are the tier separations


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QB - I think Murray and Brady are high - Murray playing without Hopkins and behind a shit O-Line. Their run game is going to regress (fading Conner this year) and there isn't much behind him if he goes down.

Brady losing his center and having a bunch of injuried geriatric WRs. I'm getting off this train probably a bit early but I don't want to go down with it when it happens. I still think Evans can squeeze out a respectable season but time is going to catch up to this group sooner than later.

Carr - needs to move up some, I think he is going to be slinging this year, my favorite QB to "settle" for later in the draft.

RB - Using your first pick on CMC in my opinion is a terrible strategy. Personally not touching him at all especially anywhere near the first round. I'm not aiming for the top scoring player with my first round pick, I want the guy that has the best shot to go out there for 17 games of the season and put up consistent numbers every week. CMC hasn't done that.

I think Taylor is in his own category followed up closely in the next tier by Harris, Javonte, Mixon.

Connor drops another tier to me - their offense is gimped without Hopkins, they have a terrible O-Line and I think he has some negative regression in terms of TDs and yards (sprinkle in a chance at injuries). He's getting drafted as a repeat and I don't think he'll come close

WR - I think Metcalf, Mooney and Cooks should all bump up a tier or 2

TE - lacking some Likely in there ;) dart throw for the most part after the first couple guys

Over all I don't hate it!
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Aug 19 2022 11:08am
Quote (JPatty @ Aug 19 2022 12:49pm)
this re-draft or dynasty?


Re-draft

I'm on the fence on it - mostly because I like having depth with a deep roster. My thinking is we're still so early with potential for some breakouts before the season starts. I'm just trying to fill my final flex which I can plug Penny in for now.

Boyd
Dotson
Pierce (Indy)

Are my bench WR atm
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Aug 19 2022 11:28am
Quote (Cardboard @ Aug 19 2022 01:04pm)
QB - I think Murray and Brady are high - Murray playing without Hopkins and behind a shit O-Line. Their run game is going to regress (fading Conner this year) and there isn't much behind him if he goes down.

Brady losing his center and having a bunch of injuried geriatric WRs. I'm getting off this train probably a bit early but I don't want to go down with it when it happens. I still think Evans can squeeze out a respectable season but time is going to catch up to this group sooner than later.

Carr - needs to move up some, I think he is going to be slinging this year, my favorite QB to "settle" for later in the draft.

RB - Using your first pick on CMC in my opinion is a terrible strategy. Personally not touching him at all especially anywhere near the first round. I'm not aiming for the top scoring player with my first round pick, I want the guy that has the best shot to go out there for 17 games of the season and put up consistent numbers every week. CMC hasn't done that.

I think Taylor is in his own category followed up closely in the next tier by Harris, Javonte, Mixon.

Connor drops another tier to me - their offense is gimped without Hopkins, they have a terrible O-Line and I think he has some negative regression in terms of TDs and yards (sprinkle in a chance at injuries). He's getting drafted as a repeat and I don't think he'll come close

WR - I think Metcalf, Mooney and Cooks should all bump up a tier or 2


TE - lacking some Likely in there ;) dart throw for the most part after the first couple guys

Over all I don't hate it!


Arizona added Hollywood and Murray likes to throw deep. His rush yards & tds can't be ignored. QB's that run the ball eat in FF. That's why bums like Hurts are top 10 for FF.
I like Brady's consistency, he didn't lead the league in passing last year for nothing. Adding Gage & Julio is solid so they can afford to be down a WR. (Julio will rip within 2 weeks too rofl). I've actually never had Brady in fantasy before lol
Agree with Carr, he's already decent as it is. Adams Renfrow & Waller should make his life easy to be a top 10 passer. I love his late draft value along with Tua and Winston.

I will 100% take CMC again, he's the best player in fantasy. Don't play scared, take the best guy ;) Look at Kupp last year, that dude has been injured his whole career. Finally had a healthy season. If you look at it more for the injured RBs that past few years, it's almost all of them. You better be drafting a WR in the first round if that's your strategy. Mixon has had many injury issues, Ekeler, Cook, Henry had one and has heavy usage.

Javonte in your 2nd tier? I think he's a beast but Gordon eating his snaps scares me and is making me avoid him in mock drafts so far. I would love to have him but imo for his ADP, there's more RBs draftable that don't have a Gordon sniffing their asses as much. I love Mixon in the late 1st/early 2nd. I've had him every year but year last ofc AND that's because I was scared of him getting injuries. Big part of why I'm not drafting afraid anymore. I'm almost confident in my later round drafting in case an injury or 2 happens.
I like Conner more than I expected tbh, he's all alone in that backfield and gets TDs. Edmunds is gone and that was his only legit threat. He's another RB that has been forever injured and stayed healthy last year ;) TAKE CMC!!! They didn't have Hopkins much of last year and Conner was great for FF. Murray being mobile helps the run game for Conner. I definitely agree he'll regress in TDs, he got a ton last year. For a 3rd-4th round guy, I'll take him all day.

All 3 of those WRs have terrible QB's. Geno will be lucky to crack 200passing yds/game, I'm a Seattle fan and I'm 100% staying away from DK. Mooney I like but same thing, the volume of passing yds/game for Fields isn't there. Mooney will have some games where he gets 100+, but have to expect several bad ones simply because there's not enough yards to go around. His upside for junk time is sweet. Cooks is going too early for my liking for the WRs going around him.

TE is tough haha, there's only 6 I'd be happy with.


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Quote (Prone @ Aug 19 2022 01:28pm)
Arizona added Hollywood and Murray likes to throw deep. His rush yards & tds can't be ignored. QB's that run the ball eat in FF. That's why bums like Hurts are top 10 for FF.
I like Brady's consistency, he didn't lead the league in passing last year for nothing. Adding Gage & Julio is solid so they can afford to be down a WR. (Julio will rip within 2 weeks too rofl). I've actually never had Brady in fantasy before lol
Agree with Carr, he's already decent as it is. Adams Renfrow & Waller should make his life easy to be a top 10 passer. I love his late draft value along with Tua and Winston.

I will 100% take CMC again, he's the best player in fantasy. Don't play scared, take the best guy ;) Look at Kupp last year, that dude has been injured his whole career. Finally had a healthy season. If you look at it more for the injured RBs that past few years, it's almost all of them. You better be drafting a WR in the first round if that's your strategy. Mixon has had many injury issues, Ekeler, Cook, Henry had one and has heavy usage.

Javonte in your 2nd tier? I think he's a beast but Gordon eating his snaps scares me and is making me avoid him in mock drafts so far. I would love to have him but imo for his ADP, there's more RBs draftable that don't have a Gordon sniffing their asses as much. I love Mixon in the late 1st/early 2nd. I've had him every year but year last ofc AND that's because I was scared of him getting injuries. Big part of why I'm not drafting afraid anymore. I'm almost confident in my later round drafting in case an injury or 2 happens.
I like Conner more than I expected tbh, he's all alone in that backfield and gets TDs. Edmunds is gone and that was his only legit threat. He's another RB that has been forever injured and stayed healthy last year ;) TAKE CMC!!! They didn't have Hopkins much of last year and Conner was great for FF. Murray being mobile helps the run game for Conner. I definitely agree he'll regress in TDs, he got a ton last year. For a 3rd-4th round guy, I'll take him all day.

All 3 of those WRs have terrible QB's. Geno will be lucky to crack 200passing yds/game, I'm a Seattle fan and I'm 100% staying away from DK. Mooney I like but same thing, the volume of passing yds/game for Fields isn't there. Mooney will have some games where he gets 100+, but have to expect several bad ones simply because there's not enough yards to go around. His upside for junk time is sweet. Cooks is going too early for my liking for the WRs going around him.

TE is tough haha, there's only 6 I'd be happy with.


For Brady, I've never owned him but I regret it some years for sure. I don't think he is going to be bad necessarily but I would put him below guys like Burrow / Dak that will get you at least SOME rushing stats on top of being heavy throwers. Slight downgrade but far from the worst of what's out there.

Murray is more environment than anything - Looks like we might agree to disagree on it - I don't think Hollywood is going to be the answer, they also lost Kirk and Edmonds and the biggest issue is still the O-Line. His air yardage has been consistent over the last 3 years but his ground game has had some pull back. Last year he had half the amount of rush yards/TDs as the year before (very similar to his rookie year). I think they continue to limit his redzone runs as well as limit the exposure for hits he is going to take. He finished QB 10 last year, on a year with Lamar and Russ both being hurt/underperforming. For him to crack the top 5, he has to average another 3PPG over a full season. (Also noticed Herbert isn't in your rankings)

For the high end RBs I think it comes down to strategy and pricing. I'd take almost anyone for the right price but I tend to shy away from high risk players in the first few rounds even if their skillset when they are on the field is above others. People took CMC at the top last year... He finished RB39... The year before that? RB 53. If the guy cant stay on the field year after year, why are we taking him at #2 overall? If he was sitting at the end of the 2nd with guys that have a few more question marks around them then sure I can see a case for an argument but taking him over guys like Diggs, JJ, Chase, Najee who are either young and have the volume to be great or are consistently on the field and putting points up, I think you're setting up for failure before the season even starts.

Give me any of those WRs or Najee/Javonte before those guys. Javonte is an animal, I think Denver is in a win now mode by adding Russ. Melvin is another year older and I think the touches are going to further grow apart as the season goes on. Again, I'm drafting for those points to be there week in and week out that I can depend on while still having a good shot at them busting loose for a bonus. 4 drafts so far this year with Taylor, Najee, Mixon, Kamara being the lead backs (I've punted RB2 to a degree in all of them)

I was high as hell on Conner last year, I had a big write up on the vacant touches, the talents there if the health was there. He knocked it out of the park. I'm not going back to that well, I think people are drafting him based on last year and are going to be in for a major let down.

The WR's imo are talented and could easily hit their projections and more through volume and skill set alone - Obviously getting down in these ranges there are more questions than answers, but I think they have the best shot at out performing.
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Quote (Cardboard @ Aug 19 2022 02:43pm)
For Brady, I've never owned him but I regret it some years for sure. I don't think he is going to be bad necessarily but I would put him below guys like Burrow / Dak that will get you at least SOME rushing stats on top of being heavy throwers. Slight downgrade but far from the worst of what's out there.

Murray is more environment than anything - Looks like we might agree to disagree on it - I don't think Hollywood is going to be the answer, they also lost Kirk and Edmonds and the biggest issue is still the O-Line. His air yardage has been consistent over the last 3 years but his ground game has had some pull back. Last year he had half the amount of rush yards/TDs as the year before (very similar to his rookie year). I think they continue to limit his redzone runs as well as limit the exposure for hits he is going to take. He finished QB 10 last year, on a year with Lamar and Russ both being hurt/underperforming. For him to crack the top 5, he has to average another 3PPG over a full season. (Also noticed Herbert isn't in your rankings)

For the high end RBs I think it comes down to strategy and pricing. I'd take almost anyone for the right price but I tend to shy away from high risk players in the first few rounds even if their skillset when they are on the field is above others. People took CMC at the top last year... He finished RB39... The year before that? RB 53. If the guy cant stay on the field year after year, why are we taking him at #2 overall? If he was sitting at the end of the 2nd with guys that have a few more question marks around them then sure I can see a case for an argument but taking him over guys like Diggs, JJ, Chase, Najee who are either young and have the volume to be great or are consistently on the field and putting points up, I think you're setting up for failure before the season even starts.

Give me any of those WRs or Najee/Javonte before those guys. Javonte is an animal, I think Denver is in a win now mode by adding Russ. Melvin is another year older and I think the touches are going to further grow apart as the season goes on. Again, I'm drafting for those points to be there week in and week out that I can depend on while still having a good shot at them busting loose for a bonus. 4 drafts so far this year with Taylor, Najee, Mixon, Kamara being the lead backs (I've punted RB2 to a degree in all of them)

I was high as hell on Conner last year, I had a big write up on the vacant touches, the talents there if the health was there. He knocked it out of the park. I'm not going back to that well, I think people are drafting him based on last year and are going to be in for a major let down.

The WR's imo are talented and could easily hit their projections and more through volume and skill set alone - Obviously getting down in these ranges there are more questions than answers, but I think they have the best shot at out performing.



Brady’s not someone I’m targeting much, haven’t taken him in any mocks.
I can live without him
I like Murray a lot but I haven’t picked him either, he has the ability to steal a I consider Hollywood as a huge thing for him. I consider him to be one of the most underrated wrs in the league. He’s am upgrade to Kirk to me. Murray played thru an injury last year also

Lmao idk why Herbert is missing 😂 I think I had him above Brady
Ekeler is very similar to CMC, he wasn’t a RB39 or so last year
Love me young RBs, history has been repeating itself the past few years. Situations matter a lot tho (wtf if the hype with Breece hall)
I expect Conners production to lessen but he’s going to get 20+ touches a game. Hard nowadays to get RB in the 3rd/4th round that gets that
There’s a lot of solid and sneaky wrs available in the mid to late rounds
. Always draft on best available in your opinion tho
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Aug 19 2022 05:38pm
Quote (Prone @ Aug 19 2022 11:07am)
Brady’s not someone I’m targeting much, haven’t taken him in any mocks.
I can live without him
I like Murray a lot but I haven’t picked him either, he has the ability to steal a I consider Hollywood as a huge thing for him. I consider him to be one of the most underrated wrs in the league. He’s am upgrade to Kirk to me. Murray played thru an injury last year also

Lmao idk why Herbert is missing 😂 I think I had him above Brady
Ekeler is very similar to CMC, he wasn’t a RB39 or so last year
Love me young RBs, history has been repeating itself the past few years. Situations matter a lot tho (wtf if the hype with Breece hall)
I expect Conners production to lessen but he’s going to get 20+ touches a game. Hard nowadays to get RB in the 3rd/4th round that gets that
There’s a lot of solid and sneaky wrs available in the mid to late rounds
. Always draft on best available in your opinion tho


wilson gun lite it up, you got brady overrated, boston sucks!
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Aug 19 2022 07:15pm
Quote (Prone @ Aug 19 2022 11:07am)
Brady’s not someone I’m targeting much, haven’t taken him in any mocks.
I can live without him
I like Murray a lot but I haven’t picked him either, he has the ability to steal a I consider Hollywood as a huge thing for him. I consider him to be one of the most underrated wrs in the league. He’s am upgrade to Kirk to me. Murray played thru an injury last year also

Lmao idk why Herbert is missing 😂 I think I had him above Brady
Ekeler is very similar to CMC, he wasn’t a RB39 or so last year
Love me young RBs, history has been repeating itself the past few years. Situations matter a lot tho (wtf if the hype with Breece hall)
I expect Conners production to lessen but he’s going to get 20+ touches a game. Hard nowadays to get RB in the 3rd/4th round that gets that
There’s a lot of solid and sneaky wrs available in the mid to late rounds
. Always draft on best available in your opinion tho


you say, "I love young RBs"
then you say, "wtf is the hype with Breece Hall"
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Quote (Cbramgar @ Aug 19 2022 09:15pm)
you say, "I love young RBs"
then you say, "wtf is the hype with Breece Hall"


People are just ignoring that Michael Carter finished strong last year
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Quote (Prone @ Aug 19 2022 05:16pm)
People are just ignoring that Michael Carter finished strong last year


Who?

jets HC is the worst in the NFL. so its prob best not to take any jets. if hall is there come round 10 imma take him for my bench.

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