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Aug 3 2022 12:19pm
Can we get thoughts on this?
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Quote (Proint @ Aug 3 2022 11:19am)
Can we get ^ZealordEal thoughts on this?


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Civil lawsuits, especially ones from anonymous plantifs aren't evidence of a crime being committed... pretty straight forward.

Testimony from named accusers is evidence certainly - but the threshold of certainty needs to be higher than a balance of probabilities and testimony alone is not sufficient.

No criminal charges, and no civil cases with decisions to base a ruling on - I'd be curious what exactly the evidence was for the 6 games?

Is there any evidence beyond accusations and first hand testimony? This is an honest question I don't know much about the details of the lawsuit beyond the fact all but one are settled.

Right before the AFC championship game I should coordinate one named plantiff and 30 anonymous plantiffs to launch a civil suit against Justin Herbert. Guy is too scary. Need suspension.
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Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ 3 Aug 2022 15:33)
Sure

Civil lawsuits, especially ones from anonymous plantifs aren't evidence of a crime being committed... pretty straight forward.

Testimony from named accusers is evidence certainly - but the threshold of certainty needs to be higher than a balance of probabilities and testimony alone is not sufficient.

No criminal charges, and no civil cases with decisions to base a ruling on - I'd be curious what exactly the evidence was for the 6 games?

Is there any evidence beyond accusations and first hand testimony? This is an honest question I don't know much about the details of the lawsuit beyond the fact all but one are settled.

Right before the AFC championship game I should coordinate one named plantiff and 30 anonymous plantiffs to launch a civil suit against Justin Herbert. Guy is too scary. Need suspension.


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Aug 3 2022 03:26pm
So NFLPA is appealing for less games and NFL is appealing for more games

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Aug 3 2022 03:43pm
Ray Rice basically got kicked from the league over "personal misconduct"
Kareem Hunt got kicked from a team and I believe 8 game suspension over "personal misconduct"
Each was a single case, this is 24 cases and he gets only 6 weeks? What did they do, suspend him 1 quarter for each case??
Should be 1yr minimum suspension, he clearly was doing something wrong or why pay out settlements.
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Aug 3 2022 04:38pm
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Ray Rice basically got kicked from the league over "personal misconduct"
Kareem Hunt got kicked from a team and I believe 8 game suspension over "personal misconduct"
Each was a single case, this is 24 cases and he gets only 6 weeks? What did they do, suspend him 1 quarter for each case??
Should be 1yr minimum suspension, he clearly was doing something wrong or why pay out settlements.


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Quote (jamesinspace @ Aug 3 2022 05:43pm)
Ray Rice basically got kicked from the league over "personal misconduct"
Kareem Hunt got kicked from a team and I believe 8 game suspension over "personal misconduct"
Each was a single case, this is 24 cases and he gets only 6 weeks? What did they do, suspend him 1 quarter for each case??
Should be 1yr minimum suspension, he clearly was doing something wrong or why pay out settlements.



I would guess they are weighing the fact that he sat all season last year, almost like a time served.

This post was edited by joshd21 on Aug 5 2022 04:58am
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I would guess they are weighing the fact that he sat all season last year, almost like a time served.

He got paid to do nothing last year. He sat out by his own volition because he demanded a trade.
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Aug 5 2022 08:36am
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He got paid to do nothing last year. He sat out by his own volition because he demanded a trade.



Your right, he did get paid... So maybe I’m wrong. But I thought him sitting out had a lot to do with the Texans just avoiding the inevitable suspension if they tried to activate him. Something like the Louisville Basketball team self imposing a tournament ban back when they were setting recruits up with escorts.

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Quote (joshd21 @ Aug 5 2022 10:36am)
Your right, he did get paid... So maybe I’m wrong. But I thought him sitting out had a lot to do with the Texans just avoiding the inevitable suspension if they tried to activate him. Something like the Louisville Basketball team self imposing a tournament ban back when they were setting recruits up with escorts.

No, it's actually more comical than that. Watson was mad at the Texans organization for various reasons and sat out while demanding a trade. Simultaneously, the accusations were piling up while the Texans weighed their options and let things play out, since they couldn't easily trade him with so much unknown about his future (which hurt his value as an asset tremendously).
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