i think it may be an issue with our receivers getting open and o-line play. look how often Aaron is forced to hold onto the ball and dance around when he's in. I don't know if all of our routes are late developing or what the deal is but our offenses seems like it's based around the third or fourth second.

... How long have you been watching the Packers? I'd love to fault the WRs here, but Aaron tends to hold onto the ball regardless of how much separation his receivers get. Perhaps that is his way of countering the ultra-productive playcalling that we've been using for the better part of each season. He knows that his mobility allows him to gamble and let the play develop a bit more because he can maneuver out of trouble if necessary. Our routes are definitely not "late developing" overall. The amount of bubble & WR screens was very high even before Rodgers went down. Cobb/Jordy got the majority of these. The number of slants, hooks and flat routes is insane. For many years, GB has had pride in the WRs ability to get YAC. That's where these routes really shine and all of our WRs are quite good at finding YAC. That's why on most 3rd and long situations, we'll toss it 2-3 yards and pray for the best. It's maddening as a fan, but the numbers check out because it works more often than we think.

This post was edited by Cheesehead on Dec 29 2017 09:47am

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Yea, he does bring up a good point about Jordy tho. Jordy has lost a couple steps. He’s only good with Rodgers behind center. I think cobb is slow as balls too. However, all hail king davante

Jordy probably wouldn't have accomplished half of what he did without the telepathic link between he and Erin Rogers. Just one of those situations where it worked best for both parties. Cobb works best from the slot and injuries/being underutilized in the last couple seasons had skewed our view on him a bit. Hard to say, but he does look a bit slower than before. Not like he had blazing speed before though

i've been a packer fan since i started watching football in the mid 90's, so awhile. I honestly watch the games and i don't see the wrs get much separation, especially with the short routes, our guys get jambed at the line. I've seen games where they get open and rodgers is usually right there....i don't think rodgers enjoys moving around unless he has to.

Lol yea I agree with you 100% for sure. And I never said cob used to be fast just that he’s just slow as shit lol he gets caught from behind on every play he breaks loose.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Peter_Bukowski/status/946079842017120257

I do think the receivers have lost a step. I also think that on 50% of the plays rodgers is in, he leaves the wide open route for 4-6 yards in the hunt of a bigger play. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a wide open tight end floating 5 yards downfield without a player within 5 yards of him while rodgers looks directly at him and moves to a different read. Hundley was too slow in reading the open route and rodgers is too confident in extending plays to take easy yards when he can flick a 25 yard pass into an impossible window given enough time.

Makes me want to jump off my desk head first