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Jun 26 2015 03:21pm
Quote (Slowtoanger @ Jun 26 2015 02:18pm)
Yeah....... No.......

And this is coming from the guy who's rocking a Wilson sig lol.



Is russell top5 to you? Where would you rank him?
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Jun 26 2015 03:24pm
Quote (L00T @ Jun 26 2015 02:21pm)
Is russell top5 to you? Where would you rank him?


Somewhere in the middle.

He pulls off some crazy stuff with his legs and works really well with Seahawks system but that can be argued that because he's IN the Seahawks system that he does well.

Honestly, I don't know how well he would do with some of these other teams.

And ever since the beginning of Wilson's career, I've always said that I would take Cam Newton straight up in a trade for Russell and I stand by that.
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Jun 27 2015 08:57am
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I would not take Aaron Rodgers, he is great and all but the past few years teams have beat his offense soundly if they have a good front four. I hate to use the word choke but he has had a few chokejobs in his career.

2008 - Ill give him a complete pass here, it was his first year.
2009 - He had a great season, Ill give him another pass losing 51-45 even though he fumbled the ball that was returned for a TD to end the game in the playoffs
2010 - Won the SB
2011 - Now here is where it gets very interesting and the chokes begin. After averaging 35 points in the reg season and begin the playoffs at Lambeau, they lose to the 9-7 Giants 37-20. This was obviously a choke.
2012 - Lost to the 49ers 31-45 at Candlestick. Similar to the Giants, the 49ers have a good front four.
2013 - Lost to the 49ers 20-23 in Lambeau. Obviously, the same front four.
2014 - Lost to the Seahawks 22-28 in CenturyLink. Another dominant defense.

Lets look back as early as the 2014 season. The Packers played a top 5 defense four times during the reg season and went 1-3 (the sole win against the Lions at Lambeau) averaging TWELVE points a game in the losses.

Teams with good defenses have proven that with a front four Aaron Rodgers can be beaten time and time again, history shows how the 49ers and Seahawks have Rodgers number.

Rodgers is a great QB but doesn't perform well against a good defense in the playoffs and that's why I would never choose him because during the playoffs a team is bound to go up against a defense like Seattle or San Fran.

Anybody who says Rodgers is the best QB today is foolish. Brady, by comparison, went 13-15 for 124 yards and 2 TDs against the Seahawks while his team was down 10 points against the best defense this league has seen for 15 years. Similar to Peyton, Rodgers may have better stats when it doesn't matter as much, but when you need a QB to take down the greatest defense you could possibly face then Brady is the man for the job which is why he is hands down the best in the game today.
Rodgers stats against the same Seahawks D in 2 games this season: 2 TD-3 INT 184 yard average 62.7% completion

While the all time greats usually still have good games against the best defenses, Rodgers' history shows he seems to always succumb to them.


2009 - you give him a pass but make a negative comment about his fumble. there was a blatant facemask in that strip fumble that couldn't be called simply because it was overtime in Arizona, 99 times out of 100 that play is an automatic first down

2010 - won the Super Bowl, more than Stafford will ever do with Megatron so sit down

2011 - the Giants have always had the Packers number, just like the 49ers. I loathed playing them even in Lambeau. look at the turnovers that happened in that game

2012 - the 49ers did have a great defense, so putting up 21 on an elite D is not something to scoff at. the MAJOR problem was the Packers had absolutely zero answers for Kaepernick scrambling

2013 - year of many injuries that fucked the Packers hard, surprised that game was even close

2014 - 22 points on Seattle's #1 defense that saw back to back super bowls is nothing to scoff at. the onside kick was catchable, special teams major error. the 2 pt conversion was unconvered. McCarthy playcalling was far too passive with two 4th and 1 situations on the goal line getting settled for field goals
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Jun 27 2015 09:26am
Is there a serious argument being made here that Kaepernick running for 180 yards and passing for 260 is a choke by Rodgers? Really?


And the 2013 game against them too? Hahaha. "Hey guys, I just capped off a 6 minute 80 yard drive to give us the lead early in the fourth, try to hold on for a little bit. Oh you let them in the endzone 95 seconds later? No problem, I'll put together 60 yards in 5 minutes to tie. Just try to leave me some time when you blow this. Oh you let them drive 60 yards and completely kill the clock to kick the game winner as time expires? Sorry I let you down."


2009, ignoring the facemask - 400 yards 4 TDs and a rushing TD. But somehow when Warner goes 29/33 for 380 and 5 TDs, Rodgers is at fault. 96 points scored and somehow it's not the defenses at fault. Rofl. The guy had 4 fucking incompletions in a playoff game. If it was against any other team, I'd still be laughing at it 5 years later.


If you're going to make an argument that Rodgers can't put together game winning drives, go for it. But you should probably not reach so hard with your attempt to pin blame on him, trolling or not.
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Jun 27 2015 09:34am
between him and luck. the man is a great qb tho. seems like a douche, but most athletes are, so fk it.
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Jun 27 2015 09:40am
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between him and luck. the man is a great qb tho. seems like a douche, but most athletes are, so fk it.


His sense of humor can be very dry and he also likes to keep his private life out of the spotlight as much as possible. But regardless, things like drinking a Grape Crush in the press conference after beating the Vikings is hilarious.
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Jun 27 2015 09:42am
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His sense of humor can be very dry and he also likes to keep his private life out of the spotlight as much as possible. But regardless, things like drinking a Grape Crush in the press conference after beating the Vikings is hilarious.


:rofl:
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Jun 27 2015 09:43am
If anybody hasn't seen it


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Jun 27 2015 10:03am
Quote (Detroitt @ Jun 26 2015 04:50pm)
I would not take Aaron Rodgers, he is great and all but the past few years teams have beat his offense soundly if they have a good front four. I hate to use the word choke but he has had a few chokejobs in his career.

2008 - Ill give him a complete pass here, it was his first year.
2009 - He had a great season, Ill give him another pass losing 51-45 even though he fumbled the ball that was returned for a TD to end the game in the playoffs
2010 - Won the SB
2011 - Now here is where it gets very interesting and the chokes begin. After averaging 35 points in the reg season and begin the playoffs at Lambeau, they lose to the 9-7 Giants 37-20. This was obviously a choke.
2012 - Lost to the 49ers 31-45 at Candlestick. Similar to the Giants, the 49ers have a good front four.
2013 - Lost to the 49ers 20-23 in Lambeau. Obviously, the same front four.
2014 - Lost to the Seahawks 22-28 in CenturyLink. Another dominant defense.

Lets look back as early as the 2014 season. The Packers played a top 5 defense four times during the reg season and went 1-3 (the sole win against the Lions at Lambeau) averaging TWELVE points a game in the losses.

Teams with good defenses have proven that with a front four Aaron Rodgers can be beaten time and time again, history shows how the 49ers and Seahawks have Rodgers number.

Rodgers is a great QB but doesn't perform well against a good defense in the playoffs and that's why I would never choose him because during the playoffs a team is bound to go up against a defense like Seattle or San Fran.

Anybody who says Rodgers is the best QB today is foolish. Brady, by comparison, went 13-15 for 124 yards and 2 TDs against the Seahawks while his team was down 10 points against the best defense this league has seen for 15 years. Similar to Peyton, Rodgers may have better stats when it doesn't matter as much, but when you need a QB to take down the greatest defense you could possibly face then Brady is the man for the job which is why he is hands down the best in the game today.
Rodgers stats against the same Seahawks D in 2 games this season: 2 TD-3 INT 184 yard average 62.7% completion

While the all time greats usually still have good games against the best defenses, Rodgers' history shows he seems to always succumb to them.


Holy shit I just realized this as an argument against Rodgers based off of his inability to beat good front 4s. The 49ers play a 3-4. lololol
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Jun 27 2015 10:31am
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ Jun 27 2015 11:40am)
His sense of humor can be very dry and he also likes to keep his private life out of the spotlight as much as possible. But regardless, things like drinking a Grape Crush in the press conference after beating the Vikings is hilarious.


LOL

i remember that
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