Quote (Randolph @ May 7 2012 07:24pm)
OK, so you sured up some of the WR issue with Blackmon. Robinson, well, you over paid for a one year wonder but let's play pretend and say the receiving corps is taken care of with those two.
You drafted Branch who had great value at that pick and resigned Mincey. So in our perfect world here, that takes care of the pass rushing DEs.
Corner you took care of with Mathis and Ross most likely being the two starters and the rest providing quality depth so I understand not drafting a corner here over the punter.
I'll give you Punter/DT/OL all on the same level but not punter above the other two.
You say FS is sured up with Lowery but if the second half of the season is any indication of how he'll play this year, I'd be worried.
Here is a quick list of players that were drafted after your punter that fit position of need, have value and would have been better picks than a punter.
Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (OH)
Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise St.
Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas
Tony Bergstrom, OT, Utah
Bobby Massie, OT, Mississippi
Christian Thompson, FS, South Carolina St.
Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida St.
George Iloka, FS, Boise St.
Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma St.
Andrew Datko, OT, Florida St.
Yes, Wilson would have been a very nice pick to Gabba Gabba because Henne isn't much of an upgrade, if any at all, if Gabbert can't cut it. Wilson on the other hand has the potential to be a starter in this league, and be successful. I know you just picked Gabbert so not ready to give up yet and a QB probably wasn't even a consideration, but I'm tossing him in there regardless.
After that, there are plenty of high powered and talented offensive line pieces all the way down that, some very solid safety prospects and two good pass rushers who would have been worthy of the selection. That list leaves out all of the great receivers still on the board.
You guys could have taken any of those guys and got a punter with your next pick in the 5th with just as much value as Anger. You're right, you probably wouldn't have gotten Anger there, but the difference between the "best" punter and the "worst" punter in this draft (of course, of draftable prospects that is) isn't very big. The difference between the top 3-5 punters is microscopic. We won't be able to tell for a couple of seasons who the best punter of the class is.
All I'm saying is what I've been saying from the start, you could have waited, grabbed an equally talented punter, and bolstered another position with a quality player.
Gabbert can't keep his eyes open, need to have a beef cake offensive line if he's going to be protected.
EDIT: Throw me a bone here. At least say you can see where I'm...we're coming from here lol.
I totally understand addressing a need, but I say it a half dozen times throughout these analysis's, drafting a less talented player at a position of need over a more talented player at a position of lesser need isn't smart and it's proven in the successful franchises. Cardinals have been guilty of it for years. They finally broke out of that habit these past couple drafts.
Ross and Mathis will not be the 2 starting Corners. Derek Cox is one of the starting CBs. Mathis and Ross will battle it out in training camp, for the other starting position. Cox is a very, very good young up and coming Corner.
I don't know what you're talking about with Lowery. The back half of the season? He didn't even play in the last 4 1/2 games, because of a shoulder injury. He played the very first snap of the Atlanta game and then went out after the play was over because he couldn't go. He then sat out the last 2 games of the year.
I don't really see how a Punter with a 3rd/4th round grade is the same as a Punter with a 6th/7th round grade, when everybody and their mothers have said, Anger was far and away the best Punter, but to each his own I guess.
I understand you looking at who we drafted and who was in the draft, but how much have you actually studied all of our players? The guys that played last year and the guys who were on IR. How in depth have you went into looking at all of the players we have, that will be returning this season? If you don't know who exactly was on IR and are just looking at the guys we were putting out on the field at the end of last season, then you won't understand.
We drafted a FS last year, so why would we draft another one this year?
We were playing with a bunch of rookie and 2nd year WRs, for most of the season last year. It doesn't make sense to draft a bunch of WRs, only to toss out some other ones who could develop into solid ones. It's not like we were walking out 8-9 year vet WRs. Are we going to draft guys who will be rookies, to replace 2nd year players going into this season?
We had at least 4 DEs on IR. John Chick flashed at times last year and is a Pass Rusher. He was on IR last season. Aaron Morgan is a Pass Rusher and he was on IR last season. Austen Lane is a Run Stuffer first, who needs to work on his Pass Rushing and he was on IR last year. Kampman was as well, but I'm not putting much faith in him at this point of his career.
Cox, Mathis, and Middleton were all on IR last year. They're our top 3 Corners. Our 4th Corner was Coleman, but he was strictly a Nickel back. We were starting our 5th and 6th string Corners last year. One was a guy we signed off the street named Ashton Youboty and the other was an UDFA named Kevin Rutland. We also started our 7th and 8th Corner at times last year, guys by the names of T.J. Heath and Morgan Trent.
And Gabbert not keeping his eyes open is so over blown and stupid, I can't stand when people say that stupid shit man. That bullshit is not true at all. People over blow that shit, just like they over blow him being scared. Because there was one stupid fluke picture that was taken, as he was being hit, with his eyes closed, people are automatically over blowing it. When that's your bodies natural reaction to hitting and/or being hit. Your eyes blink closed for a split second.
Our starting RT Britton was on IR. The back up Haslem was on IR as well. We have 2 Young and promising OTs. Daniel Baldridge who is going into his 2nd year and Cameron Bradfield who is going into his 3rd year. Bradfield started one game at LT and RT last season. I honestly thought he should of been starting over Whimper at RT, but oh well.
You talk about drafting the BAP. Well that's how our GM drafts. He grades players in groups and then selects based on need. So Anger was one of the BAPs on his board in the 3rd round and he was a position of need.