Quote (Vtrix @ Apr 24 2023 02:25pm)

I'd isn't say it wasn't gonna happen, said it was a resch and that someone will do it. I will absolutely bet you he doesn't go in the teens lmfao.

What your suggesting is mind blowing retarded. That he gets taken 10th by the eagles or in the teens lmfao.


What rb taken in the first has worked out in like the last 10 years?

Quote (Vtrix @ Apr 24 2023 04:31pm)

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/rb

Good take a look and lmk what rb held his value. Probably not 1.


There's 5 qbs gonna taken the first
Minus Miamis pick

31 picks

You realise how many good edge/linemen/CBS there sre in this draft? Yea he may be good, but rbs are absolutely the easiest position to draft in later rounds. Go look at the link.



LOOk at kc, draft ceh, bust
Took Pacheco after the 5th rd? LOL

Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 24 2023 06:45pm)

I already named McCaffrey dumb dumb.

Todd Gurley
Ezekiel Elliot
Saquon Barkley

All recently

Looking back Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomlinson

Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ Apr 24 2023 07:59pm)

I recognize that there haven’t historically been a ton who were worth a first rounder in hindsight, but there definitely have been a handful.

But to make a blanket statement like “taking a rb in the first round is always a reach”, is just historically false and an ignorant claim to make.

Quote (Vtrix @ Apr 24 2023 07:10pm)

It's actually historically correct given none of them ever hold value wtf are.yiu talking g about?

Bro this isn't 2002, the nfl has changed. RBS aren't worth much anymore.


And did you even read what I said initially? I said 2nd round is fair, but.prob gets taken in the 25-31 range. Which I think is a reach.

You're not even making any valid point, you read like 1.post I made and made.some blank assumptions.


You completely ignored what I posted and failed to even provide any rebuttal to my actual.point.

Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ Apr 24 2023 08:39pm)

Zeal already listed 4 above that hold their value as first rounders within the last 8 years. Additionally, there are several RBs that were taken in later rounds who wouldn’t have been reaches in the first in hindsight, such as Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, Le’Veon Bell, etc.

RBs are absolutely valuable still. Some teams with certain schemes, strong o-lines and a good passing game can get by with an average RB, but look at a team like the Titans. Their offense relies heavily on RPO and is greatly helped by the threat of Henry running, When he’s hurt their offense is completely broken.

Guys like Bell, McCaffrey, Saquon, etc who are elite receiving threats as well are major assets to their teams and make their quarterbacks jobs a lot easier.

You’re just wrong in your assertions, and whichever team drafts Bijan will be extremely grateful they did if he lives up to half of what’s expected of him.

Quote (Vtrix @ Apr 24 2023 07:46pm)

Gurley and zeke were worth top 10 picks? Your fucking joking right? Lmao
Henry Cook and Bell were taken OUTSIDE OF THE 1ST

Your titans argument is even more retarded given they found the face of their offence while using a top 45 pick oj a RB not a top 10 15 20 lmfao.

I'm not saying rbs are useless bro, I just said they aren't worth spending high picks. You can find great talent at much less draft capital. Again you ahvent even bothered to read what I said.


What you can't find later are good D linemen/cbs/qbs etc. Thought you would have more sense then this. Absolutely not wrong in my assertion.


Funny thing is, your telling me I'm braindead and I'm ignorant while probably really arguing over 7 draft spots

Quote (Izzo4Rizzo @ Apr 24 2023 09:00pm)

I said they hold their value as first rounders, they’re probably not worth top 10 picks in a redraft.

You understand there are a lot of 1st rounders who bust in other positions too right? And there are tons of valuable players at all positions found in later rounds of the draft, even QBs.

You are free to have your opinion, and you can call it a reach for whichever team drafts Bijan in the first, I’m not actually even sure why I’m arguing with you

Quote (Vtrix @ Apr 24 2023 05:46pm)

Gurley and zeke were worth top 10 picks? Your fucking joking right? Lmao . Zeke who just off his rookie contract got out played, out worked by a RB taken in the 4th. And yes this rb posses both CATCH and RUN ability

Henry Cook and Bell were taken OUTSIDE OF THE 1ST



Your titans argument is even more retarded given they found the face of their offence while using a top 45 pick oj a RB not a top 10 15 20 lmfao.

I'm not saying rbs are useless bro, I just said they aren't worth spending high picks. You can find great talent at much less draft capital. Again you ahvent even bothered to read what I said.

What you can't find later are good D linemen/cbs/qbs etc. Thought you would have more sense then this. Absolutely not wrong in my assertion.


Funny thing is, your telling me I'm braindead and I'm ignorant while probably really arguing over 7 - 10 drafts spots but carry on with your haterade. Your literally agreeing with a moron whose telling the eagles should draft him at 10 :rofl:

Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 24 2023 10:59pm)

I think the model for drafting an RB is you're not likely going to resign them. Their best years are on their rookie contract.

So if you have a team that is ready to win now and has a lot of the pieces in place it makes sense to take an elite talent if it's available. If Bijan Robinson makes it to the Bills at pick 27 they'll take him 100%. There's no way he goes later than pick 27.

He aint gonna make it there though. I won't be surprised at all if Philly takes him.

Anyways, looking forward to Thursday B)