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Apr 2 2018 02:03pm
Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Apr 2 2018 09:26am)
I'm not necessarily sure it was his ego, but more of a case of overthinking things, Butler played a ridiculously high % of snaps the prior season(s) but all of a sudden he's not good enough to make 1 play in the super bowl? that's how I see it. Just because he supposedly had a bad week in practice you're going to sit your starting CB in one of the biggest games of his career?

you're probably right but no one knows for sure, maybe he jumps a route and makes a game changing INT, or maybe he makes one or two more tackles that our CB's couldn't handle (Bademosi or one of our other scrub DB's missed a blatantly easy tackle). While there's no doubt we benefited overall in the AFCCG from the refs, in the super bowl that was not the case like you say; Eagles clearly had the benefit of the doubt most of the game. The clement TD... the illegal formation that went uncalled... etc. I chalk it up to inconsistency but that ESPN report that came out a few days ago made me a little upset.


We did get lucky vs the Jags. The fumble that was ruled down by contact (should have been 6 for the Jags) complete lack of calls at the end etc.. I still stand by that the Jags just fucked themeelves by doing the typical prevent bullshit that people do, but the refs helped that along. It was an insanely entertaining game and I'm happy that we got to make it there again. Even though Brady is now 0-3 when he's MVP for the year, at least each year he plays his best, he makes the SB lol. I understand why people are upset about the Butler thing and sure, maybe he would have jumped a route or two that could have made a slight difference but there was NO stomping that offense. Foles had all day and he was on fire in the pocket. I didn't think we had a chance in hell of winning against Atlanta without a pass rush and it was the same thing as the Jags game. The Eagles never slowed up for even a single fucking drive and that's why they won, and the other two SB caliber teams we played in the last two years (Jacksonville+Atlanta) would have stomped us too had they done the same.

You can't win against the best teams without any QB pressure unless those teams help you by beating themselves. That's what we saw in two games, but the Iggles refused to go out that way.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Apr 2 2018 02:06pm
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Apr 2 2018 05:27pm
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Wouldn't have made a difference. Still not sure how anyone thinks that our secondary would have held up any better with Butler when we had no pass rush. It was a blow for blow game and Brady getting stripped was the final dagger. Eagles got a ton of help from the zebras and that's what pisses me off more than anything. Butler was not good this year lol. He made a couple of okay plays from time to time, but he looked like ass and he gave up more big plays than anyone in our secondary all year. Maybe BB was just trying to avoid that? Who fucking knows, but I really can't believe people think Malcolm Butler would have been a deciding factor in a game like that.


yeah it's all hypotheticals
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Apr 3 2018 10:49am
Belichick needs to give in to Brady and Gronk...

It’s not like they’re asking for the world, Brady just wants to be treated a little better and have his own trainer whom a lot of players are going to anyways. And just let Gronk do a couple celebration dances. Like Jesus they’re not going to destroy the team doing these things. Bend a little to your two best players.
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Apr 3 2018 10:56am
Quote (TB12 @ Apr 3 2018 08:49am)
Belichick needs to give in to Brady and Gronk...

It’s not like they’re asking for the world, Brady just wants to be treated a little better and have his own trainer whom a lot of players are going to anyways. And just let Gronk do a couple celebration dances. Like Jesus they’re not going to destroy the team doing these things. Bend a little to your two best players.


Agreed. The harmony in NE between the players/staff has been one of the things that has defined the NE dynasty and it's why we've remained as successful for as long as we have. They need to get their shit together and stop working against one another. Hopefully they can figure it out, but it does seem like we're going to shit.
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Apr 3 2018 03:52pm
Cooks and 4th to Rams for 23rd overall and a 6th
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Apr 3 2018 03:55pm
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Cooks and 4th to Rams for 23rd overall and a 6th


:drool:
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Apr 3 2018 03:57pm
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Cooks and 4th to Rams for 23rd overall and a 6th


Pass rush / Tackle pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Apr 3 2018 04:12pm
Quote (ZxFamily-GuyxZ @ Apr 3 2018 05:57pm)
Pass rush / Tackle pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee


This.
Quote (TB12 @ Apr 3 2018 05:52pm)
Cooks and 4th to Rams for 23rd overall and a 6th


Wow. ...

What pick did we get him with 31 or 32 overall? Can't remember.
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Apr 3 2018 06:53pm
would be interesting if Patriots go after Odell now, Belichick worked with Moss
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Apr 3 2018 07:04pm
i wonder what you guys will be doing with that pick
o line desperately needs some help or RIP brady next season

Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ 2 Apr 2018 22:03)
We did get lucky vs the Jags. The fumble that was ruled down by contact (should have been 6 for the Jags) complete lack of calls at the end etc.. I still stand by that the Jags just fucked themeelves by doing the typical prevent bullshit that people do, but the refs helped that along. It was an insanely entertaining game and I'm happy that we got to make it there again. Even though Brady is now 0-3 when he's MVP for the year, at least each year he plays his best, he makes the SB lol. I understand why people are upset about the Butler thing and sure, maybe he would have jumped a route or two that could have made a slight difference but there was NO stomping that offense. Foles had all day and he was on fire in the pocket. I didn't think we had a chance in hell of winning against Atlanta without a pass rush and it was the same thing as the Jags game. The Eagles never slowed up for even a single fucking drive and that's why they won, and the other two SB caliber teams we played in the last two years (Jacksonville+Atlanta) would have stomped us too had they done the same.

You can't win against the best teams without any QB pressure unless those teams help you by beating themselves. That's what we saw in two games, but the Iggles refused to go out that way.


absolutely, jags and falcons chickened out at some point for no reason at all
i still cant believe how the falcons went full retard by refusing to run the ball, making snaps with 20+ seconds to go instead of wearing down the clock
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