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Apr 1 2018 05:45pm
Quote (Flopps @ Apr 1 2018 02:57pm)
i'm not upset about the decision really


I wasn't until we lost.
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Apr 1 2018 09:59pm
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I wasn't until we lost.


Seems counterproductive no?

It's hard to watch him make the right calls time after time and then turn your back when you don't know if it would have helped even. Because let's be clear, we got beat in almost every facet of the game. Butler is definitely better than what we had put there, but given circumstances I'm not upset by BBs decision
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Apr 1 2018 10:30pm
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Seems counterproductive no?

It's hard to watch him make the right calls time after time and then turn your back when you don't know if it would have helped even. Because let's be clear, we got beat in almost every facet of the game. Butler is definitely better than what we had put there, but given circumstances I'm not upset by BBs decision


Ummm... looks like we agree.
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Apr 2 2018 12:15am
Quote (WatcherOfTheSkies @ Apr 2 2018 12:30am)
Ummm... looks like we agree.


Yeah but I wouldn't have liked to win knowing that belichick gave somebody a break because of talent

He has never done that, everyone is held accountable in that locker room, that's how he wants it
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Apr 2 2018 12:16am
Quote (Flopps @ Apr 2 2018 02:15am)
Yeah but I wouldn't have liked to win knowing that belichick gave somebody a break because of talent

He has never done that, everyone is held accountable in that locker room, that's how he wants it



You play to win the game
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Quote (Flopps @ Apr 2 2018 02:15am)
Yeah but I wouldn't have liked to win knowing that belichick gave somebody a break because of talent

He has never done that, everyone is held accountable in that locker room, that's how he wants it


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Apr 2 2018 11:00am
Quote (Flopps @ Apr 1 2018 10:15pm)
Yeah but I wouldn't have liked to win knowing that belichick gave somebody a break because of talent

He has never done that, everyone is held accountable in that locker room, that's how he wants it


Wouldn't have made a difference. Still not sure how anyone thinks that our secondary would have held up any better with Butler when we had no pass rush. It was a blow for blow game and Brady getting stripped was the final dagger. Eagles got a ton of help from the zebras and that's what pisses me off more than anything. Butler was not good this year lol. He made a couple of okay plays from time to time, but he looked like ass and he gave up more big plays than anyone in our secondary all year. Maybe BB was just trying to avoid that? Who fucking knows, but I really can't believe people think Malcolm Butler would have been a deciding factor in a game like that.
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Apr 2 2018 11:01am
Quote (Flopps @ Apr 2 2018 02:15am)
Yeah but I wouldn't have liked to win knowing that belichick gave somebody a break because of talent

He has never done that, everyone is held accountable in that locker room, that's how he wants it


As a fan

I don't give a fuck about who BB thinks deserves a timeout

His ego got in the way this time
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Apr 2 2018 11:26am
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As a fan

I don't give a fuck about who BB thinks deserves a timeout

His ego got in the way this time


I'm not necessarily sure it was his ego, but more of a case of overthinking things, Butler played a ridiculously high % of snaps the prior season(s) but all of a sudden he's not good enough to make 1 play in the super bowl? that's how I see it. Just because he supposedly had a bad week in practice you're going to sit your starting CB in one of the biggest games of his career?
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Wouldn't have made a difference. Still not sure how anyone thinks that our secondary would have held up any better with Butler when we had no pass rush. It was a blow for blow game and Brady getting stripped was the final dagger. Eagles got a ton of help from the zebras and that's what pisses me off more than anything. Butler was not good this year lol. He made a couple of okay plays from time to time, but he looked like ass and he gave up more big plays than anyone in our secondary all year. Maybe BB was just trying to avoid that? Who fucking knows, but I really can't believe people think Malcolm Butler would have been a deciding factor in a game like that.


you're probably right but no one knows for sure, maybe he jumps a route and makes a game changing INT, or maybe he makes one or two more tackles that our CB's couldn't handle (Bademosi or one of our other scrub DB's missed a blatantly easy tackle). While there's no doubt we benefited overall in the AFCCG from the refs, in the super bowl that was not the case like you say; Eagles clearly had the benefit of the doubt most of the game. The clement TD... the illegal formation that went uncalled... etc. I chalk it up to inconsistency but that ESPN report that came out a few days ago made me a little upset.
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Apr 2 2018 12:21pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Apr 2 2018 01:00pm)
Wouldn't have made a difference. Still not sure how anyone thinks that our secondary would have held up any better with Butler when we had no pass rush. It was a blow for blow game and Brady getting stripped was the final dagger. Eagles got a ton of help from the zebras and that's what pisses me off more than anything. Butler was not good this year lol. He made a couple of okay plays from time to time, but he looked like ass and he gave up more big plays than anyone in our secondary all year. Maybe BB was just trying to avoid that? Who fucking knows, but I really can't believe people think Malcolm Butler would have been a deciding factor in a game like that.



Keep cryin. Pats get helped out by the refs every game
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