I'm bored so I'll try to add something of substance to this debate.
I'm not a fan of either team and might be misinformed so don't flame me too hard please.

QB - Neither team has a QB to write home about and thus a wash.
RB - Advantage JAX. Mojo might have lost a step and may not even be on the team for next season, but the Browns are pretty devoid of talent there themselves.
WR - Advantage CLE. Gordon is better than anyone that JAX has suited up in the past 5 years. Blackmon is talented, but he's an idiot.
TE - Advantage CLE. Jordan Cameron is a mismatch nightmare and will only get better with improved QB play.
OL - Advantage CLE. I'm not going to pretend like I know anyone on the JAX line other than Meester, but he's old. I can't imagine Meester and anyone else on the line being better than Joe Thomas and Alex Mack, either of whom can anchor any line in the NFL.

Because they play different defensive schemes, I broke it down into the following categories.

Front 7 - Advantage CLE. They were better at stopping the run and wracked up more sacks. I don't know too many players in this area, but in terms of pure talent, CLE is younger, more athletic, and has been more productive.
DB's - Advantage CLE. This one is fairly simple. Joe Haden and T.J. Ward can anchor any back end east of SEA.

Overall, neither team will go anywhere without a QB.
In terms of just the roster, CLE is more talented and seems to be in a better position.
Outside of the roster, CLE is a mess. They barely found someone to be the HC and they better hope this "prodigy" GM is the real deal.
I like Gus Bradley a lot and truly believe that he is the type of personality that can bring JAX out from the cellar.

Both teams will likely be affected by this offseason for a long time.
With ample cap space and draft ammunition, both regimes can really mold their teams and establish themselves for the future.

/endrant.

naw honestly, it's mostly just a delusional Browns fan that's being set straight. You weren't missing a whole lot really.

I can see/would like for us to take bortles, give Hoyer the start, and give him a good 3-4 games to prove himself. If he's not the guy then bortles gets to have his way with the rest of the season.

Manziel wouldn't be a good fit in CLE. We don't have depth on our offensive line

What have you seen that has caused you to rate Robinson ahead of Matthews?
/e
Also, the Raiders have signed a new RB from the AFL or something. So picking up a RB in the draft is unlikely.

This post was edited by BardOfXiix on Feb 18 2014 11:27pm

This mock made my penis soft...

I would take Lee, Ebron, Amaro, Mosley, and either of the top-2 safeties over Beckham Jr.

Don't get me wrong, I like Beckham, but unless he destroys the combine I wouldn't take him before the late 20s--too many good WRs later.

I also don't think they draft a C unless he is a day-1 starter, and Swanson is probably the only one capable of doing that. We'll probably bring in some veteran FA stop-gap for a year.

This post was edited by Terps on Feb 19 2014 12:27am

after watchign this again


GOD DAMN VIKINGS TRADE THE RAMS TO GET THIS GUY


sign some holes in FA, get a top corner like Verner or byrd. Than ALL IN Teddy. give the rams 8th, one of our two 3rds, and next years second. DONE DEAL would be a good trade for both teams in my honest opinion if the vikings are aggressive in FA with alll that damn salary cap space. Idc what skeptics say...mark my words teddy will be a stud

In all honesty what to watch for in FA will depict what the vikings plan to do in the draft. If we are heavily invovled since we have shit tons of cap space than we may possibly be gearing towards trading up. If we are relatively quiet in FA than I see us trading back for more picks and building through the draft. I don't see the vikings staying at #8 to be honest. Either they trade up or trade back, and knowing Rick Spielman I suspect he is trying to work out some deal for that #2


my thoughts been looking for feedback and thoughts

This post was edited by 4killer7 on Feb 19 2014 12:20am

Watched the video. Big things that stuck out to me:
He has a very quick release. A lot of young QBs struggle with getting the ball out on time--he flicks it out very quickly and efficiently.

Good mobility, but doesn't get wrapped up in running the ball. Keeps his eyes down field.

Amazing at those touch passes/floats. He really has the fade down and knows just how high to loft it to get it over a DL's outstretched hands and to a WR. Need to be careful about that in the NFL though because CBs are bigger/faster/jump higher.

Several of the passes were underthrown or behind the WR. With faster WRs in the NFL, these timings will need to be even better, and that is a concern to me after watching this.

Again, this is literally the only film I've seen of Bridgewater. Haven't seen him play any games, just this 13 minute clip. All in all, he has a lot of those things that are hard to teach--quick release, eyes down field--and that makes him a valuable commodity.

we could not find a head coach because nobody wanted to play underneath joe banner. How smart of haslam to cut not only him, but dumbass lombardi right before free agency.

it does matter if they hire jackzorz and cheesehead as the gm and ceo, literally a turd and a molded piece of bread can do a better job running an organization than those 2.

Players didnt want to play for them, coaches didnt want to coach for them, and now the cancer is gone from the team

You both are arguing about two irrelevant franchises, it's like saying what is worse eating a pile of shit or drinking your own pee. Both are pretty bad options.