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May 7 2012 08:23pm
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IIRC, they had 6 CBs on IR. As well as Smith, Amendola, and SJax being banged up all year. Hell, I think Cadillac even got injured just running onto the field at one point.


Yea, the defense definitely would've been a lot better.
But they still had no one to help poor Bradford.
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May 7 2012 08:24pm
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Biggest needs were WR, Pass Rushing DE >>> CB, Punter > DT/OL depth

FS would of only been a need if we didn't resign Dwight Lowery and we did. So Safety isn't/wasn't a need at all for us.


OK, so you sured up some of the WR issue with Blackmon. Robinson, well, you over paid for a one year wonder but let's play pretend and say the receiving corps is taken care of with those two.

You drafted Branch who had great value at that pick and resigned Mincey. So in our perfect world here, that takes care of the pass rushing DEs.

Corner you took care of with Mathis and Ross most likely being the two starters and the rest providing quality depth so I understand not drafting a corner here over the punter.

I'll give you Punter/DT/OL all on the same level but not punter above the other two.

You say FS is sured up with Lowery but if the second half of the season is any indication of how he'll play this year, I'd be worried.

Here is a quick list of players that were drafted after your punter that fit position of need, have value and would have been better picks than a punter.

Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (OH)
Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise St.
Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas
Tony Bergstrom, OT, Utah
Bobby Massie, OT, Mississippi
Christian Thompson, FS, South Carolina St.
Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida St.
George Iloka, FS, Boise St.
Markelle Martin, FS, Oklahoma St.
Andrew Datko, OT, Florida St.

Yes, Wilson would have been a very nice pick to Gabba Gabba because Henne isn't much of an upgrade, if any at all, if Gabbert can't cut it. Wilson on the other hand has the potential to be a starter in this league, and be successful. I know you just picked Gabbert so not ready to give up yet and a QB probably wasn't even a consideration, but I'm tossing him in there regardless.

After that, there are plenty of high powered and talented offensive line pieces all the way down that, some very solid safety prospects and two good pass rushers who would have been worthy of the selection. That list leaves out all of the great receivers still on the board.

You guys could have taken any of those guys and got a punter with your next pick in the 5th with just as much value as Anger. You're right, you probably wouldn't have gotten Anger there, but the difference between the "best" punter and the "worst" punter in this draft (of course, of draftable prospects that is) isn't very big. The difference between the top 3-5 punters is microscopic. We won't be able to tell for a couple of seasons who the best punter of the class is.

All I'm saying is what I've been saying from the start, you could have waited, grabbed an equally talented punter, and bolstered another position with a quality player.

Gabbert can't keep his eyes open, need to have a beef cake offensive line if he's going to be protected.

EDIT: Throw me a bone here. At least say you can see where I'm...we're coming from here lol.

I totally understand addressing a need, but I say it a half dozen times throughout these analysis's, drafting a less talented player at a position of need over a more talented player at a position of lesser need isn't smart and it's proven in the successful franchises. Cardinals have been guilty of it for years. They finally broke out of that habit these past couple drafts.

This post was edited by Randolph on May 7 2012 08:34pm
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Uh-oh.

A college football guru has been sitting in here for awhile. Probably bending some of my analysis's over a barrel at the moment lol.
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Great job on this man. Good read. Just one edit, for the Bills 6th round pick Mark Asper not filling a need - it did. We are going to have him as our backup center/guard. We had nobody at all that even knew how to snap the ball last year when Eric Wood got hurt, so we needed a backup G/C that could fill that role.
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May 7 2012 08:58pm
pretty blatant homerism, giants easily had the best draft class... open your eyes.
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May 7 2012 08:59pm
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Great job on this man.  Good read.  Just one edit, for the Bills 6th round pick Mark Asper not filling a need - it did.  We are going to have him as our backup center/guard.  We had nobody at all that even knew how to snap the ball last year when Eric Wood got hurt, so we needed a backup G/C that could fill that role.


More the player than the position that gave that pick a negative grade.

Brandon Washington was there and he's a much better prospect. If they wanted a true G/C, they should have grabbed David Molk who went mid 7th. That would have been a great pick in the 6th for the Bills if what you said is the case.

But, they had themselves a very good draft very quietly. I was honestly surprised at how well they did.

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Quote (DR1 @ May 7 2012 07:58pm)
pretty blatant homerism, giants easily had the best draft class... open your eyes.


Really thought you were xnozx lol.

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More the player than the position that gave that pick a negative grade.

Brandon Washington was there and he's a much better prospect.  If they wanted a true G/C, they should have grabbed David Molk who went mid 7th.  That would have been a great pick in the 6th for the Bills if what you said is the case.

But, they had themselves a very good draft very quietly.  I was honestly surprised at how well they did.

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Really thought you were xnozx lol.


i gotta do something to keep myself busy, this day has been exhasuting... cleveland, ugh.

when i come to arizona you're gonna take me out for dinner, right?
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May 7 2012 09:03pm
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More the player than the position that gave that pick a negative grade.

Brandon Washington was there and he's a much better prospect.  If they wanted a true G/C, they should have grabbed David Molk who went mid 7th.  That would have been a great pick in the 6th for the Bills if what you said is the case.

But, they had themselves a very good draft very quietly.  I was honestly surprised at how well they did.


Our GM said he wanted Asper because he's "as big as a house" and the Bills wanted to get bigger on their offensive line. But I too would've liked Molk, although he would be a little short for a guard.

I didn't mind our draft, I really wanted Floyd in the first though. T.J. Graham is not going to be a starter this year and we still don't have anybody opposite of Stevie, which was a huge problem last year. If Stevie gets hurt...then what?
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May 7 2012 09:06pm
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i gotta do something to keep myself busy, this day has been exhasuting... cleveland, ugh.

when i come to arizona you're gonna take me out for dinner, right?


Sure. You know when you'll be here? I'm going to be traveling a bit this summer/in the fall. A few Cali trips, 1 Colorado, 1 Utah, 1 Florida, 2 Seattle and 1 Texas. Shits going to be crazy lol.

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Our GM said he wanted Asper because he's "as big as a house" and the Bills wanted to get bigger on their offensive line.  But I too would've liked Molk, although he would be a little short for a guard. 

I didn't mind our draft, I really wanted Floyd in the first though.  T.J. Graham is not going to be a starter this year and we still don't have anybody opposite of Stevie, which was a huge problem last year. If Stevie gets hurt...then what?


Bigger doesn't mean better. :P

And I sure am glad you guys fell in love with Gilmore over Floyd lol. If Floyd wasn't there, we'd have probably taken Reiff and I would have raged.
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May 7 2012 09:07pm
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Sure.  You know when you'll be here?  I'm going to be traveling a bit this summer/in the fall.  A few Cali trips, 1 Colorado, 1 Utah, 1 Florida, 2 Seattle and 1 Texas.  Shits going to be crazy lol.



Bigger doesn't mean better.  :P

And I sure am glad you guys fell in love with Gilmore over Floyd lol.  If Floyd wasn't there, we'd have probably taken Reiff and I would have raged.


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