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Sep 23 2024 09:24pm
Quote (Hako @ Sep 23 2024 07:17pm)
First possession....

ETN slips with nobody around him on 1st down.

BTJ drops the pass on 2nd down.

3rd down Trevor is forced into a 3rd and 9 like usual and has to try and make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Dude has no help around him. 4 drops in the 1st half. Defense is fucking god awful and can't stop anything. The OL continues it's trash ways for the 3rd year now.

Although that INT was fucking bad LMAO. The fuck was that throw Trevor. But that's what happens when you're forced to backpack the rest of those bums around.


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Sep 24 2024 02:46pm
Trevor’s just bad. Team sunk so much into WRs and not panning out. Meanwhile J Allen has absolutely no WR help and is dominating

Signed TLaw way too soon still could have let it play out one more year so now you’re stuck with this awful contract at least it’s not crazy overpay but he’s locked in until at least 2028
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Sep 24 2024 04:44pm
Quote (4killer7 @ Sep 24 2024 01:46pm)
Trevor’s just bad. Team sunk so much into WRs and not panning out. Meanwhile J Allen has absolutely no WR help and is dominating

Signed TLaw way too soon still could have let it play out one more year so now you’re stuck with this awful contract at least it’s not crazy overpay but he’s locked in until at least 2028


The scheme is bad. They don't do anything to help Trevor at all scheme wise. They don't ever scheme up anything to try and make it easier for the QB, like they do for Allen (and most every other team). They scheme stuff up so it's easy for him and it's the complete opposite for this Offense. "Hey go run 4 curls and hope Trevor can make magic". That's our Offense.

Hell Doug wont even tell us who's calling the plays on Offense. Is he calling the plays, or is Press Taylor calling the plays? His own words "You'll never know". Like really?

Trevor is getting the Andrew Luck/David Carr treatment and you can see it's starting to take a toll. He doesn't trust that OLine at all and I don't blame him. He almost got his knee destroyed on a low hit last night. Should have been a penalty but of course they never call em for us.
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Quote (Hako @ Sep 24 2024 06:44pm)
The scheme is bad. They don't do anything to help Trevor at all scheme wise. They don't ever scheme up anything to try and make it easier for the QB, like they do for Allen (and most every other team). They scheme stuff up so it's easy for him and it's the complete opposite for this Offense. "Hey go run 4 curls and hope Trevor can make magic". That's our Offense.

Hell Doug wont even tell us who's calling the plays on Offense. Is he calling the plays, or is Press Taylor calling the plays? His own words "You'll never know". Like really?

Trevor is getting the Andrew Luck/David Carr treatment and you can see it's starting to take a toll. He doesn't trust that OLine at all and I don't blame him. He almost got his knee destroyed on a low hit last night. Should have been a penalty but of course they never call em for us.


You have the kirk cousins syndrome and I get it. Been there kept trying to convince myself Kirk was legit because every game you’d see some insane miraculous throw and be like damn he’s a beast. But at the end of the day he sucked. Lawerence looks lost out there. He’s wildly inconsistent, it’s not like Allen has some crazy good oline. You can make excuses all you want (i sure did with Kirk) but at the end he’s just not good

Maybe he has a Sam Darnold tour if a legit team like the 49ers pick him up, but he aint it and he’s had plenty of time to prove it

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You have the kirk cousins syndrome and I get it. Been there kept trying to convince myself Kirk was legit because every game you’d see some insane miraculous throw and be like damn he’s a beast. But at the end of the day he sucked. Lawerence looks lost out there. He’s wildly inconsistent, it’s not like Allen has some crazy good oline. You can make excuses all you want (i sure did with Kirk) but at the end he’s just not good

Maybe he has a Sam Darnold tour if a legit team like the 49ers pick him up, but he aint it and he’s had plenty of time to prove it


No Doug's system isn't it. It all goes back to his time in Philly. It's basically repeating itself here. Trevor isn't the problem. Doug's system is the problem.

People who watch and know ball all see it and it's blatantly out there. It's all over twitter and everywhere else. People who have zero ties to this team are calling it out and pointing it out like crazy. His system doesn't do anybody on the Offense any favors. Everything they try and do is hard. Whether it's run or pass.

You rarely see guys go in motion to tip the hand of if the Defense is playing Man or Zone. They don't scheme anything up to make for easy plays like damn near every other team in the league does. Allen was just dumping off short passes left and right last night and had guys wide open. That's what good Offensive scheming and game planning does. We have none of that.

Trevor needs to play better for sure, but he's at the bottom of the list when it comes to problems with this team and that's a fact.

I posted this in the other thread but it holds true... https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1838659042111058427

Here's another clip from the game last night where the pass hit Kirk in his face mask, but that's Trevor's fault also right? https://x.com/Christo_MoNa/status/1838670959571800177

Both of the above are just from the same twitter post alone... I could go on and on and on and on and pull up play after play after play... But no, it's all Trevor's fault LOLOLOLOL.
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Sep 25 2024 04:43am
This is why i love you Hako you’ll always die on your hill.

First let me point out your last statement. Never did I EVER say it’s all trevor’s fault. But you’re acting like I did. Simple statement for you…. He’s not good. He’s just not a good QB. Sure things around him also suck but he’s also a large part of the problem. You showed me a few drops and again I already addressed that, he reminds me of Cousins, he’ll make throws that make you go wow but at the end of the day both QBs are wildly inconsistent. Which makes for an awful QB. Sure all QBs have bad days, mahomes hasnt looked great at times vikings just made CJ stroud look like a backup QB. But T Law has never been consistently good for 3+ years
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Quote (4killer7 @ Sep 25 2024 06:43am)
This is why i love you Hako you’ll always die on your hill.

First let me point out your last statement. Never did I EVER say it’s all trevor’s fault. But you’re acting like I did. Simple statement for you…. He’s not good. He’s just not a good QB. Sure things around him also suck but he’s also a large part of the problem. You showed me a few drops and again I already addressed that, he reminds me of Cousins, he’ll make throws that make you go wow but at the end of the day both QBs are wildly inconsistent. Which makes for an awful QB. Sure all QBs have bad days, mahomes hasnt looked great at times vikings just made CJ stroud look like a backup QB. But T Law has never been consistently good for 3+ years


The announcers were making me cringe during that game. Claiming “he’s still a young QB” “that was a perfect throw”, he’s in his 4th season and in his second contract, at this point he’s what we’d call an establish QB in the league. With that being said I think they should keep in as their QB and try to make schemes that work for him like Hako said. Their offensive line is complete dog shit, even with Buffalo missing quite a few key defensive players they still got overwhelmed consistently by the pressure forcing Trevor to leave the pocket and make a throw on the move. They really need to address their defense and offensive line this offseason, or maybe make some moves in free agency this season. Trevor is going to get hurt running around like a chicken with his head cut off 75% of the time.
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Sep 25 2024 08:32am
[QUOTEQuote (straightedgerevenge @ Sep ]The announcers were making me cringe during that game. Claiming “he’s still a young QB” “that was a perfect throw”, he’s in his 4th season and in his second contract, at this point he’s what we’d call an establish QB in the league. With that being said I think they should keep in as their QB and try to make schemes that work for him like Hako said. Their offensive line is complete dog shit, even with Buffalo missing quite a few key defensive players they still got overwhelmed consistently by the pressure forcing Trevor to leave the pocket and make a throw on the move. They really need to address their defense and offensive line this offseason, or maybe make some moves in free agency this season. Trevor is going to get hurt running around like a chicken with his head cut off 75% of the time.[/QUOTE]

What’s crazy is they’ve tried to fix the oline they just fail in FA and the draft

Cam robinson basically a 1st round pick
Anton Harrison 1st round pick
Signed ezra cleveland for a 3 year deal extension when he wasn’t that great on the vikes or jags
Mitch Morse was a beast on the Bills so i get that signing
And a boatload of money to brandon Sherff

So they’ve tried


Also doesn’t help throwing crazy contracts at average WRs like Gabe Davis

This post was edited by 4killer7 on Sep 25 2024 08:33am
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Quote (4killer7 @ Sep 25 2024 10:32am)
[QUOTEQuote (straightedgerevenge @ Sep ]The announcers were making me cringe during that game. Claiming “he’s still a young QB” “that was a perfect throw”, he’s in his 4th season and in his second contract, at this point he’s what we’d call an establish QB in the league. With that being said I think they should keep in as their QB and try to make schemes that work for him like Hako said. Their offensive line is complete dog shit, even with Buffalo missing quite a few key defensive players they still got overwhelmed consistently by the pressure forcing Trevor to leave the pocket and make a throw on the move. They really need to address their defense and offensive line this offseason, or maybe make some moves in free agency this season. Trevor is going to get hurt running around like a chicken with his head cut off 75% of the time.


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What’s crazy is they’ve tried to fix the oline they just fail in FA and the draft

Cam robinson basically a 1st round pick
Anton Harrison 1st round pick
Signed ezra cleveland for a 3 year deal extension when he wasn’t that great on the vikes or jags
Mitch Morse was a beast on the Bills so i get that signing
And a boatload of money to brandon Sherff

So they’ve tried


Also doesn’t help throwing crazy contracts at average WRs like Gabe Davis


Allen pretty much made that contract possible for Gabe Davis tbh. He makes WRs look better than they are by making his running ability keep the safeties and dbs play closer to the line

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Quote (straightedgerevenge @ Sep 25 2024 03:56am)
The announcers were making me cringe during that game. Claiming “he’s still a young QB” “that was a perfect throw”, he’s in his 4th season and in his second contract, at this point he’s what we’d call an establish QB in the league. With that being said I think they should keep in as their QB and try to make schemes that work for him like Hako said. Their offensive line is complete dog shit, even with Buffalo missing quite a few key defensive players they still got overwhelmed consistently by the pressure forcing Trevor to leave the pocket and make a throw on the move. They really need to address their defense and offensive line this offseason, or maybe make some moves in free agency this season. Trevor is going to get hurt running around like a chicken with his head cut off 75% of the time.


You do realize Trevor is still only 24 years old right? lol. He's absolutely a young QB. There are QBs that were just drafted this year as rookies that are as old as he is.

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[QUOTEQuote (straightedgerevenge @ Sep ]The announcers were making me cringe during that game. Claiming “he’s still a young QB” “that was a perfect throw”, he’s in his 4th season and in his second contract, at this point he’s what we’d call an establish QB in the league. With that being said I think they should keep in as their QB and try to make schemes that work for him like Hako said. Their offensive line is complete dog shit, even with Buffalo missing quite a few key defensive players they still got overwhelmed consistently by the pressure forcing Trevor to leave the pocket and make a throw on the move. They really need to address their defense and offensive line this offseason, or maybe make some moves in free agency this season. Trevor is going to get hurt running around like a chicken with his head cut off 75% of the time.


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What’s crazy is they’ve tried to fix the oline they just fail in FA and the draft

Cam robinson basically a 1st round pick
Anton Harrison 1st round pick
Signed ezra cleveland for a 3 year deal extension when he wasn’t that great on the vikes or jags
Mitch Morse was a beast on the Bills so i get that signing
And a boatload of money to brandon Sherff

So they’ve tried


Also doesn’t help throwing crazy contracts at average WRs like Gabe Davis


Cam Robinson is garbage. Dude gave up 8 pressures alone on MNF. He should be benched.

Harrison had a very good rookie year, but he has regressed this year so far. That's the biggest WTF on the OL so far, considering he played all of last season with a shoulder injury, yet now he's playing even worse.

Cleveland isn't good.

Morse was an upgrade over Fortner at Center, but that isn't saying much at all because Fortner was dog shit.

Scherff is old and all but done.

This clip/play perfectly sums up our OL/system... 3 dudes (RG/C/LG) blocking 1 guy. Leaves ETN 1 on 1 and he gets blown up. Also Cam gets destroyed on the edge. Exactly how is this a Lawrence issue? He has literally no chance... He hits the last step of his drop back and is instantly being hit by two guys..https://x.com/ErikJTurner/status/1838657614890307806

This post was edited by Hako on Sep 26 2024 01:27am
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