Yes why don't you go look at what Vegas had at the start of last season.
Show me how accurate that was.

So are you saying that the odds are false and they're not one of the favorites or that a majority of people are blind, deaf, and retarded?

I said one of the favorites, and it clearly shows that they're one of the favorites, some rankings on a couple websites had them at #1 over SF even.

Just admit you're wrong.

Just gonna be jacking up the pot bidding at this point, gotta squeeze every last fg I can out of you kids before January/February rolls around.

No I'm saying how the early season Vegas odds are always way off, so if you're trying to prove me wrong with them than you're as dumb as General Japrone

Actually, is it possible to find Vegas' preseason odds for last year? I'd like to see how accurate they were for lulz

It's one or the other.

Would you like people to post preseason rankings? Expected win totals? Or are you just that much smarter than every other person who watches the NFL?

Pick a few teams you think Seattle will finish better than (be reasonable) and let me pick one and we'll put 1k on it?

Drama drama drama

Dodged