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Quote (AmineA @ Nov 21 2017 07:47pm)
Can you give me an example after tom brady and bill belichick came to be? GL. Pretty sure BB has a winning record against Doug Marrone too.



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How quickly people forget about 2015 Peyton Manning and the Broncos. Bortles is way better than 2015 Manning, yet they still won the Superbowl that year with him. Why? Because an elite Defense carried them. An Elite defense just like we currently have lol. Oh yea, and they happened to beat your Brady and Belichick that year lmao.



Whole lot of assuming going on here lmao.


I don't argue that elite defenses win games but comparing jags d to that insane Denver squad might be a bit much
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I don't argue that elite defenses win games but comparing jags d to that insane Denver squad might be a bit much



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Eli manning is miles ahead of Bortles
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How quickly people forget about 2015 Peyton Manning and the Broncos. Bortles is way better than 2015 Manning, yet they still won the Superbowl that year with him. Why? Because an elite Defense carried them. An Elite defense just like we currently have lol. Oh yea, and they happened to beat your Brady and Belichick that year lmao.



Whole lot of assuming going on here lmao.


Lmao stopped reading there, take the homer goggles off, even if Bortles was statistically better, i would take peyton any day of the week just because of his football I.Q., don't care how ugly some of his throws were he still got the job done.
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I don't argue that elite defenses win games but comparing jags d to that insane Denver squad might be a bit much


This. Not the same caliber at all, and most importantly, their pass rush is nowhere near as good as Denver's, which is the one thing a team HAS to have to beat NE. Not saying the Jags couldn't win, because they could, but comparing them to Denver doesn't really make sense. I do believe Bortles is better than Manning was the year he won, but not by a huge margin, and while Manning was bad, he only threw ONE int through the entire postseason. What are the odds of Bortles only giving up one turnover during the postseason on a run to a SB? Anything is possible, but I'd be surprised if they make it past their first game.
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What are the odds of Bortles only giving up one turnover during the postseason on a run to a SB?


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This. Not the same caliber at all, and most importantly, their pass rush is nowhere near as good as Denver's, which is the one thing a team HAS to have to beat NE. Not saying the Jags couldn't win, because they could, but comparing them to Denver doesn't really make sense. I do believe Bortles is better than Manning was the year he won, but not by a huge margin, and while Manning was bad, he only threw ONE int through the entire postseason. What are the odds of Bortles only giving up one turnover during the postseason on a run to a SB? Anything is possible, but I'd be surprised if they make it past their first game.



WHAT?!?! Jacksonville leads the NFL in sacks
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Quote (Flopps @ Nov 21 2017 04:12pm)
I don't argue that elite defenses win games but comparing jags d to that insane Denver squad might be a bit much


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This. Not the same caliber at all, and most importantly, their pass rush is nowhere near as good as Denver's, which is the one thing a team HAS to have to beat NE. Not saying the Jags couldn't win, because they could, but comparing them to Denver doesn't really make sense. I do believe Bortles is better than Manning was the year he won, but not by a huge margin, and while Manning was bad, he only threw ONE int through the entire postseason. What are the odds of Bortles only giving up one turnover during the postseason on a run to a SB? Anything is possible, but I'd be surprised if they make it past their first game.


And exactly how are they not the same caliber??..

That year Denver's Defense was #1 in total defense (283.1 yards), #1 in pass defense (199.6), #1 in sacks (52), #3 against the run (83.6), #4 in points allowed per game (18.5), #3 in defensive touchdowns (5) and they had 27 takeaways.

Currently, our Defense is #1 in total defense (275.6 yards), #1 in pass defense (162.0), #1 in sacks (40), #16 against the run (113.6 [but we've been #1 against the run the past 3 weeks, since we acquired Dareus so this will only continue to get better. we were 32nd]), #1 in points allowed per game (14.1), #1 in defensive touchdowns (5) and we have 23 takeaways.

The Pass rush is no where near as good? lol... We only rush our front 4 guys. We rarely ever blitz and still cause constant pressure.

So there's the numbers staring you right in the face. Please explain how this Defense is not the same caliber...
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Quote (Hako @ Nov 21 2017 06:00pm)
And exactly how are they not the same caliber??..

That year Denver's Defense was #1 in total defense (283.1 yards), #1 in pass defense (199.6), #1 in sacks (52), #3 against the run (83.6), #4 in points allowed per game (18.5), #3 in defensive touchdowns (5) and they had 27 takeaways.

Currently, our Defense is #1 in total defense (275.6 yards), #1 in pass defense (162.0), #1 in sacks (40), #16 against the run (113.6 [but we've been #1 against the run the past 3 weeks, since we acquired Dareus so this will only continue to get better. we were 32nd]), #1 in points allowed per game (14.1), #1 in defensive touchdowns (5) and we have 23 takeaways.

The Pass rush is no where near as good? lol... We only rush our front 4 guys. We rarely ever blitz and still cause constant pressure.

So there's the numbers staring you right in the face. Please explain how this Defense is not the same caliber...


Looks good on paper. We'll see when you get to the playoffs.

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WHAT?!?! Jacksonville leads the NFL in sacks


Ya, and half of those came from 2 games against complete garbage teams? Sorry that I'm not box scoring the season so far and basing all my opinions off that, but off the games of theirs I've actually watched. They're* a competent team, but they don't look nearly as good as Denver did.

Can sit here and disagree with me all you want, and I'm sure you both will, the numbers support your claims, but we'll see how they do when they play some good teams, in games that actually matter. Win over Pitt was impressive, but nothing else they've done this year has made me think they're a SB caliber team.

Quote (HoustonFan @ Nov 21 2017 06:07pm)
Why do u argue with him hes a moron who talks out of his ass and doesnt know anything lol


Ouch, what a painful dis from a blacklisted troll, I don't think I'll ever recover. First post of yours since I've installed the post block script btw, welcome to the club.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Nov 21 2017 08:11pm
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